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Hi all,

I wonder if anyone else has run into this problem. I was trying to use EWI-USB with BIB. The VSTi that AKAI provide is a customized version of Garrison personal orchestra. I have loaded it as a VSTi plugin to Thru channel. It works fine for the first time, then it randomly crashes, giving access violation error.

Similarly for RealBand, I have set the VSTi as default VSTi. Works for sometime then crashes, often corrupting (at least part of) save file, makes me losing work! Here are the logs from error log

(2014) 4/6/2014,11:03:05 PM - Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000

(2014) 4/6/2014,11:03:12 PM - Access violation at address 00685FA4 in module 'bbw.exe'. Read of address 00000000 at: 00685FA4

(2014) 4/6/2014,11:03:24 PM - Access violation at address 00685FA4 in module 'bbw.exe'. Read of address 00000000 at: 00685FA4

(2014) 4/6/2014,11:12:21 PM - Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000

(2014) 4/7/2014,1:08:45 AM - Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000

(2014) 4/7/2014,1:10:58 AM - Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000

I am running BIB on Windows 8.1 (64bit edition)

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Is the VSTi 64-bit? If so that my be your problem as a 64-bit VSTi or plugin may not work correctly if indeed it loads at all in a 32-bit program like BiaB or RB. 64-bit VSTi or plugins rarely work in 32-bit programs.

This is based on my experience but YMMV.


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Thanks for the reply.

They come in both 64bit and 32bit version, and I have only used 32bit version (64bit version won't even load to begin with)

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As for realband, I get


(2014 (7)) 4/6/2014,11:24:23 PM - Access violation at address 0044525A in module 'realband.exe'. Read of address 00000000 at: 0044525A

(2014 (7)) 4/6/2014,11:24:23 PM - Access violation at address 0044525A in module 'realband.exe'. Read of address 00000000 at: 0044525A

(2014 (7)) 4/7/2014,1:24:38 AM - Access violation at address 0DB527C5 in module 'aria_x86.dll'. Read of address 0D29F714 at: 0DB527C5

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Are Band and a Box and Realband installed in the Program Files folder?

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No they are installed in default locations (c:\bb and c:\RealBand)

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Right click on either BIAB or RealBand desktop icon and enable (check) the "run as administrator" checkbox.


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Thanks for suggestion. I've tried running as admin mode, didn't help. I've even turned off UAC, still suffering from the problem.

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Are you experiencing computer problems like reboots, blue screen or system crashes intermittantly or while using any other program?

Have you tried the VST and VSTi with multiple (different) song files or with one song file?

If you are experiencing issues as I first described you may have a hardware issue such as hard drive needs to be defragged, clogged fan causing overheating, power supply starting to go bad, loose connection, ribbon cabling insulation shorting against the chassis or the thermal paste on the cpu has evaporated. A loose screw can cause weird issues too. If the only time you have an issue is when you use one of the plug-ins inside BIAB or RealBand it's likely not a hardware issue.

If you haven't done so try using the effects with multiple song files. It's possible your song may have become corrupted from the crashes.


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Thanks for the suggestions

No its definitely not a hardware issue. I am using FL Studio with lots of vst and vsti heavily and never experienced the issue. (Why would a hardware failure give Access violation at address anyway?)

I experienced similar issue when using Korg M1 inside BIAB too, for multiple songs.

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Originally Posted By: chajath
Thanks for the suggestions

No its definitely not a hardware issue. I am using FL Studio with lots of vst and vsti heavily and never experienced the issue. (Why would a hardware failure give Access violation at address anyway?)

I experienced similar issue when using Korg M1 inside BIAB too, for multiple songs.


Hardware could definitely cause an A/V if it is requesting the driver to access memory outside of the program's address space.


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Re: the original post where there are many mentions of:

(2014) 4/6/2014,11:03:05 PM - Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
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This is typical of a null pointer error. Something is not initialised correctly. A pointer to a memory address contains a null instead of containing a valid memory address value.

Presumably you have tried reinstalling?
Presumably the driver software is the correct version for your operating system?


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I’m on vacation/holiday thus I haven’t been around much.

Did you install the EWI_USB drivers in XP emulation mode? If I remember correctly I believe that is what I had to do, I don’t believe there are Win 7, 8 or 8.1 drivers out for the EWI-USB. You should check to verify this.

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