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I've been following the "BAIB is hard" thread and I suppose this is my contribution. With 11 or 12 years experience I should know how to do this, but I don't!
I have a song with the regular halfnotes 120 bass. This lopes along fine for most of the song, but the middle 8 (actually 16 bars) needs a more insistent regular 8 to the bar so I've tried using the metal bass 120 (which the blurb suggests can be used in this sort of way). Fine as far as it goes, but try as I might, I can't get it to play the root for 16 bars - it always introduces a little slide or something similar which is fine in the middle of an AC/DC song but kind of kills a Tim McGraw song. Is there any way of persuading the metal bass to just play the root - the beat is fine, it's just the notes it plays.
I'm now getting to the point of acutally considering getting my Jazz bass out of the cupboard for the first time in a year or so and actually using it on the song - but I don't want to admit defeat just yet. I could also just cut and paste individual bars or pairs of bars to make 16 bars from scraps, but I've kind of got to the point of obsession about this!
Any help gratefully appreciated.
Best wishes
Brian
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Brian, are we talking about Real Bass here, or a MIDI bass track? If it's Real Bass, I don't think you can quite get what you want, at least not yet. If it's MIDI, then you can try either using slash chords or pedal bass, or copy the bass track to the Melody or Soloist track and edit it to play exactly the notes you want. If you need help with any of that, let us know.
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Real bass, is sliced and diced bass wave files, it does not change patterns much, or follow midi.
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I haven't tried it yet, but can you put the chord in 4 times per measure and get it to just play the root? As in:
G,G G,G. I'm no expert but I thought I would at least make the suggestion. It might affect the other instruments adversely, so you may have to have just a bass file that you export separately.
Kevin
Last edited by Kemmrich; 02/07/09 05:03 AM.
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Many thanks for the help. I'm fine with the midi side - it was a song originally done with midi instruments and reworked to realtracks (to its benefit). The original track was done with two different styles which gave the different bass patterns. It was really the real bass side I was wondering about.
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Brian
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Kevin
Thanks for the suggestion - it seems to work! Of course, the same approach works to get just root chords in a lot of midi-based styles, so it is logical it should work with real tracks too ...
Provided the chords are vanilla "F", "G" or whatever the real bass just plays the root nearly all the time. The original had a bar of "Dm7" and even entering 4 "Dm7"s in the bar gave variations in the pattern. Changing this to "D" worked fine - given the I was exporting the bass to Sonar, the fact that everything else also played "D" not "Dm7" is irrelevant.
You win today's gold star!
Best wishes
Brian
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The original had a bar of "Dm7" and even entering 4 "Dm7"s in the bar gave variations in the pattern. Changing this to "D" worked fine - given the I was exporting the bass to Sonar, the fact that everything else also played "D" not "Dm7" is irrelevant.
You can get it to sound right inside of BIAB by typing in slash chords. Ex: Dm7/D will force the bass to play only D while the upper instruments play the Dm7 chord.
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