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Is anyone using the ezdrummer program with biab or pt or rb? If so how does it work. Is it ram intensive? Any help will be appreciated!
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As luck would have it, I bought this just a little before BIAB came out with Real Drums. After getting so caught up in Real Drums, I never even opened the EZ Drummer package. However, I know several others here have mentioned using it, so you should be able to get some advice.
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Is anyone using the ezdrummer program with biab or pt or rb? If so how does it work. Is it ram intensive? Any help will be appreciated!
it should work great, a lot of people here use it but keep in mind, you wouldn't use it with Biab unless you want all your midi instrument tracks to sound like drums because Biab has just one midi output port. Just to add confusion to that statement though, now that we have so many Real Tracks you could do it if all the other instruments were RT's. Normally though, you would use it in Real Band or another sequencer because they have multiple output ports.
Ram usage is a relative thing. It probably loads the drum samples into ram like my Jamstix does. I have 2 gigs so no problem but if you only have 256mb or something low like that, then it would be a big problem. For any modern DAW I would think 1gig of ram would be the absolute minimum when working with software synths that load audio samples.
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EZ Drummer loads all of its samples into memory, so it can have instant access. I would say 1gig is the minimum to run it, and keep the system running smooth.
I have all the EZX packs, and the biggest one takes up 319mb of memory. Of course if you add the Latin Percussion kit that will total 588mb of memory used, so you can see that it WILL eat you memory up quickly running more than 1 kit.
Hope this helps!
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One slight issue I've had is that although BAIB drum output and EZDrummer are both meant to be GM compatible, they don't always agree with each other about what note plays what instrument. You can get round this in SONAR with custom drum maps, but I have no idea whether RB supports these – I have RB, but wouldn’t ever use it for that sort of thing.
The basic sounds of EZD are really good – with a good basic midi drum track (of which BAIB has hundreds now languishing as folks change to Real Drums and there are thousands come with EZD and each of the expansion packs), a bit of compression and reverb you can get sounds that are at least the equal, and often better. I say better as you, not PG Music’s recording engineer, control the reverb and compression levels, and with EZD’s multiple outs (and natty internal mixer), you can also add different amounts of compression to kicks, snares and cymbals to get drum tracks zinging out of your speakers. Although it is more work than Real Drums, for basic rock/country rock stuff, the combination of EZD and Rayzoon’s Jamstix really gives excellent results, and depending on how much you care about these things, can often be made to sit better in a mix than the premixed, already quite reverb-heavy Real Drums. For instant gratification, though, there is nothing to beat Real Drums!
Just my 2p.
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My TunesPsalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.
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Hey Brian
I'm interested in EZ drums or Superior Drummer. have you checked out the FUnky expansion pack? If so, what is it like? The demo's make it sound pretty cool....any thoughts?
Paul
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EZ Drummer is not made to be GM compatible, it has it's own propriety way of mapping stuff, tho it can play back most GM tracks. I have all the EZX packs, and they are all very nice. including the Funky set (the drums definitely have that JBrown sound!)  But after 2 years with it the sounds, tho good, are the big limiting factor because what you get is what your stuck with. They are all processed to an extant, some more than others....and FOR ME that is starting to be a limiting factor. I hope that they come out with just some nice, cleanly recorded, straight up - no effect EZX packs so we can have full control over the sounds, while using their great Midi files & player. I also own Addictive Drums, and find myself using them more than EZD lately, especially when you turn down all the room & overhead mics.... And this is all IMHO of course........ 
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Thanks for the heads up....
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