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I must have at least 40 or 50 various BIAB program/installation disks taking up space in my closet, maybe more -- the result of buying virtually every Windows and Mac upgrade offered for well over a decade, along with various plus-paks, bonus disks, extra style disks sold by PG in-between upgrades, and a few duplicate disks shipped as free upgrades or bug-fixes. Now that I've got the latest version of BIAB on a PG-supplied hard disk, I'd like to toss the old CDs (and I may even have a few floppies that should go). But my hesitation is: I seem to remember that some of these old mega-pak deals offered bonus programs that weren't available in subsequent mega-paks, and I think there was at least one fake book that PG offered for while, then pulled. I could load up every disk and inspect it, but that would take a while, and to complicate things further, PG issued some "Bonus" or "Plus-Pak" disks without even putting a year on their generic-looking labels. If I toss 'em, am I tossing something I didn't get in latest BIAB UltraPak -- that might not even be available any more? Anybody know if there's likely to be anything rare and/or worth saving on these old disks?
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Whether they are worth saving or not isn't for me to say, but there have been a wealth of bits and pieces down the years which might or might not be in the current mega-omni-spiffing-pack. Things like the Andy LaVerne solist disks, various disks of piano and guitar solos, intros (although not, sadly, endings), fakebooks and jam tracks. Some came with 12 packs, some with 25 packs and some came from who knows where. One of the problems is that you end up with so much, you really have no way of knowing what you have, what you had, what you're now missing and what you still don't have. The "what add ons do I have" button doesn't show things like solos, fakebooks etc.
I have thrown out all my installation disks (now having a USB drive version - which I don't actually use), but I have everything I ever had installed and backed up to a separate hard drive.
Brian
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There may be many stand-alone programs and/or add-ons on those discs that are not currently included on your UltraPak hard drive, including some stuff that may have been discontinued. You could install all of the bonus pak discs to the hard drive, but there are also add-ons included in the installers for Band-in-a-Box, that were not on seperate discs. If you purchased all of your upgrades from us, we woudl ahve a record of them back to 1999 and could tell you what was included on those discs that is not on your UltraPak. We could even send you links to the add-ons from easy installation. Call us at 800-268-6272.
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I haven't tossed my disks (they're stored away in a CD storage container), but I did copy all my CD's to a USB hard drive, with each folder properly labeled as to what it is. All the PGMusic programs install fine this way, and I can install any version of the program I wish without having to go look for the disks. Actually, I've done that with all my programs. There's only two or three that want to be installed from the CD directly, and for those, I just created an ISO image that I can mount as a virtual CD, so even then, I don't have to hunt down the CD.
When I rebuild a computer, I just install the OS, then hook the external USB hard drive and start installing. Has worked great for me. Sure, it took time to get everything copied over, but you only have to do it once. Of course, since USB hard drives are so cheap now, I have everything backed up on another one (just in case).
For programs that require serial numbers, I just include the serial number in the folder name, which I can then just copy/paste into the registration form when I need to. Saves a lot of time.
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Some good ideas, here, John, thanks. I recently read an article questioning how long archived data will last on a hard drive, because of decay from - wait for it - radiation, occurring naturally in the environment. Wow. Always something to make things more complicated, isn't there?
gcaryn , are you a PG Music employee? Thank you for this information. As a user from well before 1999, I may take you up on this suggestion and try to get a list of any add-ons I have. That would be the easiest way to then go and find them. I'm just like jholman, with a box full of old BIAB CDs and even disks.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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same again here there must be a few of us
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I wouldn't, just because of the hidden jewels there may be, but if you do, let me know, and throw them my way, I'll pay for shipping. It'd be like christmas.
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Some good ideas, here, John, thanks. I recently read an article questioning how long archived data will last on a hard drive, because of decay from - wait for it - radiation, occurring naturally in the environment. Wow. Always something to make things more complicated, isn't there?
Well, the magnetic media in a hard drive is indeed somewhat shielded by the total metal enclosure.
Storing a drive for archiving inside a metal cabinet yields yet another level of shielding.
Consider that analog magnetic tape masters are often stored with less shielding than that and yet can be taken out of archive and used for those digital remastering sessions. Typically other environmental factors can be far more detrimental to the magnetic media than "radiation" -- humidity, moisture, acid rain, temperature at storage, etc. Since the magnetic "rust" in a hard drive is applied to a hard and solid surface, it should be much more robust than magnetic media stored on acetates, mylars and other flexible media (tapes).
--Mac
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It's good to know that PG keeps records back to 1999 -- even better if they'll provide a download link to software one can prove that he or she purchased way back when. I actually recall one time when I placed an order for an add-on program I forgot I already owned, and got an email back from someone at PG reminding me that I'd already paid for it. I mean, who else would do that? (I've bought software from other companies that you can download a limited number of times during a short time window -- while they try to persuade you to spend extra cash for a kind of "insurance policy" to allow you to download it again later on if you need to.)
I'll go ahead and save what I've got to a small, unused USB drive. Speaking of media reliability, I do know that at least one of my early PG-supplied CDs has gone bad (no apparent physical damage, yet it's unreadable when I try it in several different CD drives, as are a few other CDs I purchased or burned in the late 90s). So I may need to call PG on that one...
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
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-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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