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d/l and installed via Firefox here. No probs so far.

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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
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new discovery
It worked in Chrome.
FF was failing repeatedly.

/Then again I'm running a future FF version .. but it hasn't affected anything else


Bingo! That did it except I used Edge and it went right through.

Funny I've used FF for so long and it's been so stable it never occurred to me it could be the issue but apparently it is.

Bob


As you're a FF user try using the DownThemAll plugin

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/downthemall/
http://www.downthemall.net/

It uses multiple streams to download faster. I didn't have any problems downloading the update using it.

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I usually use Waterfox (a variation of Firefox) but because of the reported problems I used Edge. Downloaded in 5.5 minutes, no problems.


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I have followed the Support Line's instructions and reinstalled the patch to no avail. Divide by Zero crash every time.

Can you send me a link to a way to roll back the program update? (I'd still like to keep the Real Track updates, but need the previous program back.)

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David,

To step back to the previous build, go to the link below and...

1. Select the Windows or Mac Software Updates (as appropriate for your system).

2. Download the previous build number that you want.

3. Close BIAB.

4. Run the exe file (and double-check that the program paths are correct when prompted).

http://www.pgmusic.com/support.htm

Doing the above will restore the previous program build for you. The Realtracks update will stay in place.

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P.S. I just read Matt's answer. I wasn't aware of that alternative. His approach is nice and simple.


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Just overwrite the BBW.EXE file with the last (latest) one in the Backup folder.


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Thanks to both of you - Matt, your idea worked great - I still get a message that there is an update - but the BBW.EXE file in the folder was dated 8 2016, somehow the program update did not install. Anyone else with this issue might want to check.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Just overwrite the BBW.EXE file with the last one in the Backup folder.
Matt, this information would make a nice post in the Tips & Tricks section of the forum.


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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
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Just overwrite the BBW.EXE file with the last one in the Backup folder.
Matt, this information would make a nice post in the Tips & Tricks section of the forum.

Thanks, Jim. I remember doing this many years ago, and I assume that's why the /bb/bb2017_backup folder is there at all, so we can. I hesitate to recommend this procedure to everyone because I never know how fluent they are manipulating files (renaming then copying and renaming). Me, I taught DOS when it first came out...

Most recently, some poster from PG Music gave the advice to download and run a prior build (what Noel said) so until they give some direction, I don't want to counter their most recent advice in a general tip.

Three thoughts:

1) I'm putting together a BIAB First Aide PDF, and maybe this should be in it.

2) Perhaps PG Music could add a batch file to accomplish the task. It could just revert to the prior build, or optimally allow selection of the desired prior build from a list.

3) there are a ton of files you and everyone can safely delete, for all the backup files in /bb/bb2016_backup files, /bb2015_backup files etc.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley

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1) I'm putting together a BIAB First Aide PDF, and maybe this should be in it.
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Hey, I really like that idea!


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley

1) I'm putting together a BIAB First Aide PDF, and maybe this should be in it.

2) Perhaps PG Music could add a batch file to accomplish the task. It could just revert to the prior build, or optimally allow selection of the desired prior build from a list.

3) there are a ton of files you and everyone can safely delete, for all the backup files in /bb/bb2016_backup files, /bb2015_backup files etc.


1. I'll be at the front-of-the-line to download your pdf. That is a great idea.

2. If not PG Music then perhaps someone else will like the idea enough to create the batch file.


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Cool, Jim.

About the batch file, it would be easy IF PG Music makes a change in how the files are named. Now, they are all unique names with a date in them. I'm pretty good at batch file programming but I'm not sure how to select only the newest file in a list. PG Music could write the batch file and hard code the file name in if they wanted to update the batch file each time a new update is released, though.


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After reading all this post about the size and problem with this update files, I almost lost my hope about ever be able to run this program without any problems... 2016 running without problem for me a whole year.. After purchasing 2017 audiophile I have had so many problems and so little time to fix it, that I resorted to other stuff instead..

It's frustrating enough to live in a country with the worse internet connection in the word, without additional problems with BiaB...

I'm going to post today in another forum about my main problem, so I will not spend time on it here.. Just a suggestion;

Why not offer "us unfortunate" with slow and unstable internet connection a subscription solution for updates by CD on a a monthly basis? I would happily pay for it, to have all latest updates mailed to me on a CD every month... Would save me a lot of trouble and frustration all day long...

My best speed is around 150-300 kb/s at night time around 3-4am, when most people sleep... At ordinary days, it's around 30kb/s Hardly enough to open google and facebook.... Even going to an internet cafe with the fastest speed available can be a pain in the [*****] sometimes...

So u guys that can do this stuff in like 4-5 min. are some kind of lucky [*****]...;)


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Trygve,

Are you aware that with the Audiophile version it's possible to install the wma version of the program on your computer? That's like installing the Everything Pak.

I have the Audiophile edition and what I do is to use the hard drive installation mostly. I use the Audiophile tracks when I want to create a backing and I want the best quality instrumental files.

I'm sure if you contact PG Music Sales, they will be able to organise something for you with updates. Send them an email and ask. You could even mark it "Attention Callie". Callie often visits these forums and helps many people.

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After reading all this post about the size and problem with this update files, I almost lost my hope about ever be able to run this program without any problems...


There is no problem with the update or download. This thread just became a discussion for various patch and download related topics that people wanted to discuss. One or two people had problem with their download and it's not clear what it the issue was, seemingly browser related. There have been thousands of successful downloads, and the patch does not update the bbw.exe, just updates a few RealTracks audio files and ST2's.


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