Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#398677 03/03/17 01:46 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
I was finally able to order a new Dell Laptop 15 5000 to start using Biab again. There was only 1 at the price I ordered and they sent me a slightly better Mhz version i5 8GB Ram and was *supposed* to be a 1TB HD, which is actually a 100GB (SSD) HD.

Obviously, I am unable to load Biab completely onto it.

How do I run Biab directly from the Biab (2015 version) HD to get the best performance out of both? What should I actually load onto my HD from the Biab HD, if anything?

Thanks,

Trax

Muzic Trax #398680 03/03/17 02:08 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,209
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,209
just install the basic program on the computer and point the Realtracks, Realdrums etc to the hard drive during the install


I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
Muzic Trax #398683 03/03/17 02:13 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,455
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,455
Yeah... ditto. Do the minimal install that puts only what you need on the C drive and references the PG hard drive for everything else.

Since BB & RB load the tracks to memory, it will run perfectly in that configuration. That's how I have been running my setups for the past several years.

No problemo.

Quote:
they sent me a slightly better Mhz version i5 8GB Ram and was *supposed* to be a 1TB HD, which is actually a 100GB (SSD) HD. Obviously, I am unable to load Biab completely onto it.


To put it bluntly, If I ordered a 1TB drive and they sent me a 100GB drive instead, I would be highly perturbed, to say the least. That's only one tenth the size you ordered. Heck, my smallest drive in my DAW is 350GB for the C drive (it's 10 years old) and the backup data drive is a 1TB with another 1TB external.... What was the manufacturer thinking? Nobody uses a 100Gb ( .1TB drive ) these days. I'd be on the phone DEMANDING a replacement with the specs I paid for.

Last edited by Guitarhacker; 03/03/17 02:19 PM.

You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
rharv #398691 03/03/17 02:51 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
Thanks Rharv,

How do I point the RT's to the Biab HD?

Trax

Off-Topic
E
eddie1261
Unregistered
eddie1261
Unregistered
E
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
To put it bluntly, If I ordered a 1TB drive and they sent me a 100GB drive instead, I would be highly perturbed, to say the least.


Ballistic is a better word. I would fly to Round Rock Texas to throw that laptop through the front windows of Dell HQ. 100GB? I didn't think drives CAME that small in 2017.

Muzic Trax #398697 03/03/17 03:26 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 260
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 260
I can't believe I'm (attempting to) answer an IT question. But...

I went thru the SAME THING! Newegg...long story, but bottom line it came with a 512 GB SSD. There was supposed to be a 2nd drive (1 TB HDD), so now my laptop has 2; the SSD and a HDD.

I Googled and I added a 2 TB HDD. I couldn't believe how easy it was. You pull the CD/DVD player out and replace it with either an SSD or HDD. Of course, then you have no CD/DVD player, but I didn't need one. (I still have it and if I needed it I could swap them out in 2 mins.)

You need a "caddy," which is a little, aluminum tray that the disk drive fits into, and it needs to be specifically for your laptop. It will all fit snuggly and took about 10 mins to install. I couldn't believe it. You can buy the caddy for your 5000 here, $25, they also sell HDD/SSD, or get one elsewhere.

https://www.newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=585

There are videos on Youtube showing you how to install it.

Good luck either way.


Andy

BIAB 2017 Ultra
Windows 8 and 10
Scarlet 18i8
Reaper and Mixpad
Muzic Trax #398718 03/03/17 07:50 PM
Off-Topic
E
eddie1261
Unregistered
eddie1261
Unregistered
E
I think his point was more that he didn't get what he was told he would get. We could ALL add stuff out of our own pocket, but he was misled by Dell and DELL should be buying him an additional drive. To advertise 1T (or 1000G) and send 100G, that's the stuff lawsuits are made of.

Trust me. They would have heard me in Texas from my house in Ohio without a phone had they done this to me. This kind of consumer abuse just flips every trigger I have.

Muzic Trax #398735 03/04/17 02:05 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,492
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,492
I was triggered by
Quote:
"There was only 1 at the price I ordered"
and went to the German Dell site. There it tells me:
Quote:
Anpassbarer Massenspeicher: Entscheiden Sie sich für eine festplatte mit bis zu 1 TB Speicherplatz und ...
(in English: Choose a hard drive with up to a 1 TB memory and...).

So, my first option after something similar to Eddie's roar would be to calm down enough to check my order. Maybe it was my own blooper. If not, then there is still ample time to talk to Dell in a professional manner. Usually there is an acceptable way to resolve these kind of things -- and by the way: Dell is not known to trick their customers like this. If they did, they'd be out of business.


Last edited by GHinCH; 03/04/17 02:06 AM.

Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Muzic Trax #398740 03/04/17 03:08 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,209
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,209
Trax,
During the install, near the beginning, there will be a screen where you have to select your install options. This is the first opportunity.

After installing, if for instance you move the drive, you can use the Song Generation options in Prefs to relocate the RTs and RDs.


I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
rharv #398844 03/04/17 06:36 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
Thanks Rharv,

I have them pointed in the right direction now. Just a lil rusty with Biab from not using it for a year.

Trax

Muzic Trax #398938 03/05/17 11:02 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,121
*** UPDATE ***

The company is giving me a very generous refund for shipping me the wrong Laptop. The laptop they sent is actually better then the original one I ordered, except for the HD size.

I can purchase another HD.

Everything is working fine with Biab so far.

Trax

Muzic Trax #398942 03/05/17 11:22 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,209
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,209
Nice
Glad it worked out
You still have to clone the existing drive to the new one, but if the refund is good you should be in good shape. It'll involve a little of your time, but otherwise should be easy.


I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
Muzic Trax #399020 03/06/17 03:23 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,455
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,455
Originally Posted By: Muzic Trax
*** UPDATE ***

The company is giving me a very generous refund for shipping me the wrong Laptop. The laptop they sent is actually better then the original one I ordered, except for the HD size.

I can purchase another HD.

Everything is working fine with Biab so far.

Trax


Well, sounds like they did ship the wrong one. Dell is a good company and I've had their products and never had any problems getting service when it was needed. They even sent a tech to my house two times to replace hard drives in the computers my daughters had.

And sometimes the newest and best isn't always the best option when it comes to what you're going to use the machine for. Sometimes, the older machine just makes it easier.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!

Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!

Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!

Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!

It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!

We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!

Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:

Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!

Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!

New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!

We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!

Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.

Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles

Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)

And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.

You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
  • Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
  • Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
  • Playable RealTracks Set 4
  • RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
  • SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
  • 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
  • Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
  • Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
  • RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,538
Posts780,681
Members39,685
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Aprada, songpilot space, mdbaharzaman, smeet, Bob Mesquita
39,684 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 141
WaoBand 104
DC Ron 88
rsdean 85
dcuny 64
Today's Birthdays
Jorge, Sawmill Music, stephen.hazel, tbcass
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5