|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 78
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 78 |
From printed sheet music to playing it as a midi file in BIAB. Apart from some software like Smartscore and a scanner, what is the procedure and pitfalls to look out for? I basically want to put transcribed sax solos in BIAB and put band tracks behind it in order to practice along....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
While this method can work, given some manual "cleanup" editing on your part after the scanning, don't expect it to sound very musical when played back due to the fact that there will be very little to nothing in the way of Velocity data per note, nor in the way of those subtle changes in note lengths that a human player imparts.
However, BIAB has certain tools that can help here, once the part is converted to MIDI and imported onto the Melody or Soloist track, the corresponding Menus and Edit areas contain tools to "humanize" a part somewhat, randomize velocities, etc. This may help to make the performance sound a bit less mechanical, but may not impart the same exact nuances that the original player of the solo put in there.
Another method worth considering -- go ahead and create the MIDI part so that you can have notes to read and then use the BIAB Audio file playback feature (the ACW would be a great way to "bring it in" to BIAB, but with jazz tunes don't expect the chords to be found correctly, just the Beat Map, song format and length, etc. and then you can go through and manually type in the right chords) -- and then have the original recording of said solo to hear while you read the MIDI part.
That said, by far the better way to deal with solo transcription is to bite the bullet and actually transcribe the solos yourself note-for-note and phrase-for-phrase, then analyze each phrase over the chords, getting inside the mind of the original soloist. It is not a shortcut, but it still imparts MUCH more to the student of music than any purchased or otherwise automatically derived solo transcription can, for memorizing from the page is not improvisation, it is just trying to convert improvisation into the "read and playback" of classical music. In some things the old ways are still the best.
Whatever you do will certainly help, though. Just do it.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 812
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 812 |
That said, by far the better way to deal with solo transcription is to bite the bullet and actually transcribe the solos yourself note-for-note and phrase-for-phrase, then analyze each phrase over the chords, getting inside the mind of the original soloist. It is not a shortcut, but it still imparts MUCH more to the student of music than any purchased or otherwise automatically derived solo transcription can, for memorizing from the page is not improvisation, it is just trying to convert improvisation into the "read and playback" of classical music. In some things the old ways are still the best.
Wow Mac, in all your many posts, this one is the best for me!! Great advice, and when I started Transcribing myself, a whole new world of music opened for me. I actually found that learning the solo on your instrument WITHOUT writing it out first, is the best way because when you play along with the solo, you are getting the energy of that player, your time and delivery gets so much better when you do improvise on your own. THEN you should go ahead and write it out........
As usual, Mac is right on the money!
Ed
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 78
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 78 |
Sure, you are both right, and I have been transcribing the old way for some time now. But dammit, it is a slog! I just think it would be more fun to read while you slow down and loop. If Charlie Parker could have done it this way when learning all those Prez solos, dontcha think he would have?
Oh, and Mac, you mention "ACW" and "Beat Map", what the hell are these things? And would you advise another note editing program to "clean up" before bringing it in to BIAB?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
Update to RealBand® 2025 Build 5 Windows Today!
Already using RealBand® 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 5 now from our Support Page to ensure you have the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Get the latest update today!
PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 is here! This new version introduces many features, including VST3 support, the ability to load or import a .FLAC file, a reset option for track height in the Tracks window, a taller Timeline on the Notation window toolbar, new freeze buttons in the Tracks window, three toolbar modes (two rows, single row, and none), the improved Select Patch dialog with text-based search and numeric patch display, a new button in the DirectX/VST window to copy an effects group, and more!
First-time packages start at only $49. Already a PowerTracks Pro Audio user? Upgrade for as little as $29!
www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm
Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.
Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.
Check out the forum post for more information.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,043
Posts774,932
Members39,577
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean