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I need some help (Mac?). I have a Ketron SD2 that I use with RealBand, and I am thinking about using an SD4 so I can play MIDI guitar on one set of sound banks and use RealBand/BIAB on the other. How do I get RealBand (and BIAB, which may be a different set up) to recognize the SD4? Do I need to delete the current PAT files? I can't remember how I set up the SD2 when I initially purchased it. Thanks.
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I found I can use the exact same Patchmap as the one for SD2 uses in RealBand or BIAB as the GM synth input side is identical to the SD2.
Good design if you ask me...
The Solo synth is different, but selectable from front panel of SD4. There is a delay between punching the numbers and the Patch Change, though, so for Live Performance I recommend using your MIDI controller to send the Patch Change data, because then it is instantaneous change. At least, that's how it works with the few controllers I've tried here.
Love the Solo Bank in that SD4, though.
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Mac, Does this mean I don't need to do anything other than plug in the SD4, since the SD2 patch map is already installed in my BIAB and RealBand folders?
Also, for soloing with the SD4, while I am running MIDI files on the other sound bank(s), I'm planning on using a Godin Multiac SA guitar (synth access) with a Roland GI-20 midi interface, and then the SD4 for the sound. Does this sound OK? Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Just plug it in, yes.
If you use the SD3's USB interface, you would, of course have to select the right MIDI output in the software.
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Mac,
I set up the SD4 to replace the SD2 and I get no sound. I downloaded the SD4 patchmap from PGmusic and dropped it into the bb folder. Not getting any sounds from the SD4, so any suggestions? You helped me set up my SD2 about a year ago. Thanks in advance.
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How are you hooking up the SD4 MIDI to your computer?
If you simply unplugged the SD2 and plugged your MIDI interface into the SD4's GM input, you should be hearing things.
If, however, you elected to use the SD4's USB connect, you have a different situation and need to change the MIDI output port in BIAB.
For USB, you also have to hook up the SD4 and power it on before opening BIAB or BIAB likely won't be able to see it in the MIDI Output selection window.
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Love the Solo Bank in that SD4, though.
--Mac
Mac, I agree. The sounds are great. Question: Do you know if there is a way to change the octave settings? Since I am using a guitar, some of the instruments play an octave too low for a melody line, like the piano, for example. I play in a high fret position, and I run out of guitar neck, so I need to raise the piano sound an octave. Do you know if this can be done? Thanks.
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Mac, I agree. The sounds are great. Question: Do you know if there is a way to change the octave settings? Since I am using a guitar, some of the instruments play an octave too low for a melody line, like the piano, for example. I play in a high fret position, and I run out of guitar neck, so I need to raise the piano sound an octave. Do you know if this can be done? Thanks.
I have found the same thing.
This is because the SD2/SD4 engines are the same as in their respective Accompaniment Keyboards, where the C4 "middle C" placement -- and thus all others -- is moved an octave on many patches for the sake of the way an Accompaniment Keyboard works with that LH being used in lower octaves to define chords for the accompaniment.
However, the SD4 responds to standard MIDI "transpose" command from your MIDI controller. For example, my M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 has two Octave transpose buttons right on the front panel, + and - such that hitting either will bump the entire keyboard up or down one octave. This can be stored in memory such that when playing, the whole thing is invisible to the player.
Depending upon your guitar synth or controller, you may be able to do the same thing, check your manual carefully. Also check the SD4 manual for the MIDI commands needed to tell the unit where C4 should be or where you want it to be.
--Mac
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