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Upgrading from 2009 version to 2009.5 If you are an existing 2009 Band-in-a-Box customer, here is a summary of your options available for getting the 2009.5 upgrade, and none/some or all of the 101 new RealTracks. ================================== 1. (free) You can upgrade your 2009 version to 2009.5 version free... link here Band-in-a-Box 2009.5 update (from 2009 version) http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#284RealBand 2009.5 update (from 2009 version) http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windows_realband.htm#2009_4 -- if you want to get some or all of the new 101 RealTracks The 101 RealTracks are split into 3 groups (called RealPaks), which are named Jazz 2, Country 2, Rock 2 2. $59 (DVD) you can buy a RealPAK for your preferred genre (Jazz 2, Country 2, or Rock 2). Those come on DVD. You install them to your existing Band-in-a-Box installation, either on you hard drive, or the external USB hard drive. These also include the 2009.5 upgrade from 2009. To order/ more info at http://www.pgmusic.com/realpaks.htm3. $99 (DVD) you can buy all 3 of the RealPAKS - all 101 new Realtracks on DVD's. (Jazz 2, Country 2, AND Rock 2). Those come on DVD. You install them to your existing Band-in-a-Box installation, either on you hard drive, or the external USB hard drive. These also include the 2009.5 upgrade from 2009. To order/ more info at http://www.pgmusic.com/winmacpluspak.htm4. $149 (UltraPlus Hard Drive - 160GB). If you already have 2009 UltraPAK or 2009 Everything PAK, on DVD or Hard drive, you qualify for the UltraPlus Hard drive at $149. That is a plug n play ready 160GB hard drive with "the works" - all the new RealTracks (and all the old ones too), as well as a full installation of BB and all the styles. To order/ more info at http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm or phone 1-888-PG-MUSIC 5. $199 (AudioPhile UltraPlus Hard Drive - 1 TB) If you already have an audiophile version, you can update that by getting the new 1TB HD that is loaded with BB, and all the RealTracks, styles etc. To order/ more info at http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm or phone 1-888-PG-MUSIC ----------------------- These products can be ordered (and downloaded immediately while you wait for the hard copy to come) here... http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm
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Peter, Can you tell me which sets are in each of the realpaks? i.e. Is blues in Jazz or Rock
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Rock, ------- Sets 40 to 49, ------- Rock 2 RealPak $59 --- (39 new RealTracks, and new RealDrums) Jazz, -------Sets 50 to 59, ------- Jazz 2 RealPak $59 --- (29 new RealTracks, and new RealDrums) Country -------Sets 60 to 66, ------- Country 2 RealPak $59 --- (33 new RealTracks, and new RealDrums)
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If I'm just doing the free update, does BIAB 2009.5 update include the Real Band 2009.5 update, or are they to be updated individually?
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There's no such thing as a free lunch BUT there are free programme updates for BIAB, RB and PTPA. Of course, you won't get the RT updates for free 
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Hi Peter, I want to do the $199 'audiophile to audiophile' hdd upgrade. I am following the link from your post but it is just taking me to the standard sales page which does not seem to contain this specific offer. Am I missing something or is the offer not yet on the website?
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Aubrey, in another post, Peter said it would take another day or two before this was available on the website.
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I own the 2009 ULTRA on usb hard drive (non audiophile) and was considering upgrading to 2009.5 audiophile, seems like a good time to do it...
I contacted support and was told the cost would be 529 USD.....seems really expensive, is that correct.
Seems like a good time for PG to offer customers an incentive to go from non audiophile to audiophile...
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I too was considering upgrading but it’s too expensive for me.
I realise that its PG's software and they can charge what they like, as it’s a great product.
But in these recession days I think most companies would have their eye on the ball and would consider selling more at a reasonable price than less at an expensive price.
Just my personal opinion.
Will wait for December to see if there is a better deal around then.
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Hi Wiz, The way I read it from Peter's original post is that you are up for $149 but it is not yet shown on the ordering sheet. And maybe the sales staff you spoke to have not been briefed yet. I am still waiting for a button to order the Audiophile version on a hard drive. I had my credit card ready to do the deal this morning but no button yet, so I'll wait another day. PG Music will have to hope I don't spend all my pocket money before they get their act together. 
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Hi Graham, The button has arrived, and can be found at http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm ($199 audiophile to audiophile update) Peter
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Thanks Peter. Order placed, although there were a couple of mouthpieces at Hickeys that were starting to look pretty good. 
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Hi ya all,
I was looking at the upgrade options and I am slightly confused about the "audiophile" hard drive.
1 Am I right in thinking that the "audiophile" is just a normal hard drive that has the realtracks and realdrums in a different file format that makes the sound clearer for the more discerning musician? (Other than the greater hard drive space)
2 If one was to get the normal non "audiophile" from PG Music would it take a long long time to convert all the realtracks and realdrums to the audiophile format?
Many thanks Paddy
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I'm not sure from taking your two questions together that you fully understand the difference, so let's try to be very clear, and if I'm mistaken, I apologize in advance.
As I understand it, there are three ways to use Real Tracks:
1) WMA files that are converted on the fly to WAV equivalent. This means the sound of the WAV file generated temporarily is the same as the WMA compressed file. This is the default way that Real Tracks operate.
2) Convert the WMA files in a folder to WAV. Same quality as #1. The benefit is that your Real Tracks will generate a bit faster. The drawback is that the files take up about 10 times as much space.
3) The Audiophile version, WAV files that were never compressed (like the WMA files were), and therefore load fast, sound best, but take up more space like in #2.
So, to your question #1, as far as I know, there is no such thing as audiophile Real Drums, just Real Tracks, and the rest of your question is True.
Your question #2 implies that you can convert non-audiophile to audiophile, and this is False. Perhaps you were just asking how long it takes to uncompress WMA files into the sound-equivalent WAV files? I don't know that answer, because I use the audiophile version and it was a long time ago I did the uncompress operation (before I bought the audiophile version), but I recall it took some serious time to finish.
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The audiophile edition is the original WAV files for RealDrums and RealTracks. The standard format is WMA (Windows Media) compressed files (which can be converted to WAV, but still incurs the hit of the lossy compression).
The WAV file sound of the Audiophile edition is as close to the original as you will get, but it is at the cost of many times the disk space. With the audiophile edition, since you don't have to convert the WMAs when generating the song, the performance is also somewhat faster. Also, you don't end up essentially double compressing the files when you ultimately convert your mixed song to WMA or MP3 (a compressed file that's compressed again loses a lot more fidelity). Most people probably wouldn't notice (since everyone listens to MP3s these days anyway), so it's up to you. The audiophile format will give you the best sound at the expense of a lot of hard disk storage.
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Thanks Matt and john for your quick replies, which has cleared things up for me.
Thanks again,
Paddy
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sorry , but I am having trouble figuring out ..
so, I own ultra pak 2009 on USB hard drive...
how much is it for me to upgrade to 2009.5 audiophile
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Never mind, i just ordered the normal updaate......8)
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Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
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Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
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- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
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We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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