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Absolute beginner question - no sound #437370 11/10/17 06:03 AM RealBand
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 L Lyle OP Newbie
OP Lyle Newbie L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	I just fired up Real Band 2017 on Windows for the first time, chose the software synth at startup (I think), entered chords, hit play. The song evidently plays, but no sound. Clearly some problem with audio setup, but where to look? Thanks....

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437393 11/10/17 08:48 AM RealBand
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Did you choose a MIDI only style or a RealTracks style? Do you hear a count-in first, or nothing at all? Do other sound programs work on that computer OK? A further thought: Do you have sound from BiaB? Last edited by VideoTrack; 11/10/17 08:51 AM. Reason: BiaB question BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437427 11/10/17 01:24 PM RealBand
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Muzic Trax Veteran Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,119 California	Check your audio drivers and midi in/out settings 1st. Trax

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437468 11/10/17 04:27 PM RealBand
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Suggest you look at Options > Preferences > Audio. Check if Audio Drivers are set to MME, Audio File Type 16 bit, 44.1KHz Press the Drivers button, and see what Audio Output Driver is selected to. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437503 11/11/17 04:01 AM RealBand
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 L Lyle OP Newbie
OP Lyle Newbie L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	- I'm using what seems to be the default style, ZZJAZZ - no sound over 2 count-in bars, no sound while playing marked chord - BIAB, Audacity, Spotify all work fine - Audio Preferences set to: 16bit 44.1, MME - Drivers: "Microsoft Sound Manager" and "Microsoft Sound Mapper" are selected and at the top. Honestly, all I did was an install, selecting all defaults. Why me, Lord? Thanks for the replies...

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437512 11/11/17 05:06 AM RealBand
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA rharv Veteran
rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA	Try msgs synth instead .. And any other available audio driver Generally the mapper ones are not ideal I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437517 11/11/17 05:36 AM RealBand
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 L Lyle OP Newbie
OP Lyle Newbie L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Maybe something's not installed. My Input Drivers are (in this order): - Microsoft Sound Mapper (highlighted) - Microphone (High Definition Aud - Microphone (Digital Video Recor - Line In (Digital Video Recorder My Output Drivers are (in this order): - Speakers (High Definition Audio (highlighted - Microsoft Sound Mapper - Speakers (High Definition Audio - Speaker (Digital Video Recorder I installed BIAB 2017 from a PGMusic distributed usb stick, onto my Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit laptop. I took all the defaults at install time. I did find this page, and will go through it's suggestions: http://www.pgmusic.com/tutorial_rbw_nosound.htm Thanks, everyone, for your help....

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437524 11/11/17 08:08 AM RealBand
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA rharv Veteran
rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA	Are you in the windows mixer or RB Audio Drivers area? They are different. Last edited by rharv; 11/11/17 08:10 AM. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437538 11/11/17 10:27 AM RealBand
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Example Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) RB_Midi_Drivers.jpg (89.88 KB, 106 downloads) RB_MME_Drivers.jpg (86.56 KB, 106 downloads)

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437540 11/11/17 10:31 AM RealBand
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 L Lyle OP Newbie
OP Lyle Newbie L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	RealBand -> Options -> Preferences -> Audio -> Drivers The lists I gave above are all I see. Maybe I should reinstall?? Thanks again to everyone....

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437561 11/11/17 12:30 PM RealBand
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Quote: - I'm using what seems to be the default style, ZZJAZZ That is a Midi style so you need a midi device to play it. What is your Midi Devices set to ???? Click on the Midi Devices button at the top. To take a pic press Print Screen button on your keyboard, use Alt+PrtScrn to take a pic of current window, Open Paint and paste, save it as a JPG, use the advance reply not quick reply to attach image.

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437594 11/11/17 05:06 PM RealBand
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 L Lyle OP Newbie
OP Lyle Newbie L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Let's see if I've figured out how to attach a jpg. Yay! it worked.... Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Capture.JPG (36.38 KB, 107 downloads) Last edited by Lyle; 11/11/17 05:06 PM.

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437597 11/11/17 05:39 PM RealBand
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	So you should have sound now ? are you using the onboard RealTek audio into some speakers ?

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437605 11/11/17 06:44 PM RealBand
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 L Lyle OP Newbie
OP Lyle Newbie L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Sorry, still no sound. RealTek, I never heard of. This is a Dell E6430 laptop, running Windows 10, and no added audio gizmos. Audacity, BIAB, Spotify all play fine through my external speakers And I really took all the defaults at install time, so don't know why I'm such a "problem child". Thanks...

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437607 11/11/17 06:50 PM RealBand
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,316 Melbourne, Australia	Take a look and note down all of the Audio Settings etc that are being used in BiaB (Options > MIDI/Audio Driver Setup), and make sure that RealBand is set to use the exact same settings. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #437721 11/12/17 12:40 PM RealBand
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA rharv Veteran
rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA	In Options-Preferences- Audio Tab Click the Drivers button. Select the desired audio output port (speakers?), and then click the 'Move Selected Device to Top' button (this makes it the default device in RB). Hopefully this last bit helps with actually hearing the sound. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #439657 11/22/17 02:09 PM RealBand
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,382 K Kent - PG Music PG Music Staff
Kent - PG Music PG Music Staff K Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,382	Hi Lyle, In Band-in-a-Box, you can simply type in chords, pick a style, hit Play, and hear something, but RealBand works very differently. It doesn't automatically generate anything when you hit Play. If you look in the Tracks window, tracks are likely all empty. It sounds like you needed to open a song that you'd created in Band-in-a-Box already (recommended), or hit the Generate button on the RealBand toolbar, then "Generate All BB Tracks", if you want to create the song only using RealBand. If you'd like to make sure your audio and MIDI settings are correct, the demo song Listen.SEQ in the X:\RealBand\Samples folder is a great test, as it contains audio and MIDI tracks. Thanks Kent PG Music

Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound Lyle #441168 11/28/17 04:20 AM RealBand
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,345 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker Veteran
Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,345 Middlesex, NC	Hi Lyle.... did you install a "default synth" for RB? I want to think that the default Microsoft sound card synth doesn't work because I had to specifically set up TTS to be my default synth. As soon as I did that I had sound. this was my problem with no sound when I first started. If you have sound in BB it's because you have a synth in it. I think you need to do the same thing in RB. I'm pretty sure audio should play if you have the driver set up properly, but midi based tracks won't, and that includes the count in. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

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