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been noodling around on the guitar & keyboard and may have come up with original melodies
the ? how to tell if they are indeed original or put another way how much has to change from a copyrighted work before you can claim it as yours
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Post it we'll tell you if it sounds too much like someones tune. LOL
For the most part you should be okay as long as you do not use whole sections of melodies or words from other songs.
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Every song is an original!
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Try the McCartney method - when he wrote "Yesterday" he couldn't believe he hadn't heard it somewhere else - he ran around asking if his mates had ever heard it before.  I like Ed's idea. Write it and post it. Writers often learn their trade writing to other people's tunes as an exercise. Burton Cummings of the Guess Who would use a metronome to set the beat then play some chords - hard not to get something original that way. Set the beat with BB drums and mute everything else - then start to play chords - hard not to get something original that way. You've got an idea - just write the song - worry about the rest later.  Cheers
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If you've subconsciously rewrote a song someone will let you know. You're not deliberately copying so,
"You've got an idea - just write the song - worry about the rest later."
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Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
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thanks & stay tuned i'll post a rough draft soon working on getting system setup having recently retired
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Yea there's only so many notes in the scale so it's bound to sound a bit like something. As long as it doesn't sound too much like something LOL>
go for it.
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The question is kinda like Steve Martin's riff on how to make a million dollars and not pay any taxes: "First, make a million dollars. Then, don't pay your taxes. It's simple!" In your case, record your song, become a commercial success, then wait to see if you get sued. If you don't, it was original.  R.
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Well, I have written some decent songs, but fat chance that they would ever be a commercial success or be noticed.  Don S.
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I've done that with a tune and was told the first 16 bars sounded exactly like a tune composed by a well known player here in Scotland.
I was told not to worry as this b*gger had copied more tunes and called them his own than anyone else on the planet.
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I didn't know Jimmy Page was a Scot!  R.
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Write it......... If it turns out to be a big hit, then it was probably one of mine originally............
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Quote:
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If it turns out to be a big hit, then it was probably one of mine originally............
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Quote:
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If it turns out to be a big hit, then it was probably one of mine originally............
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Anybody have an IPhone (or the latest Ipod that runs the same software)? I understand there are at least a couple of IPhone applications -- Midomi and Shazam -- that let you sing or hum a tune, then search through a database to try to find out what tune that is. If it can find the "original" tune I'm humming, or something really close, that would be something I'd like to know, anyway. (I've got a year and half left on my Verizon contract, but one of these days...)
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I Remember writing a song over 20 years ago. Very simple chords as I knew very little about chord structure then (I Know rather less now lol). The lyrics were just as simple. I titled it "The Lonely Fool" . I played it to friends and family with the response that it sounded familiar. It took me about a year before I heard The "Original" song I'd somehow copied without realising. That song was " Poor Little Fool " by Ricky Nelson. Obviously I'd heard it before and had stored it in my subconcious to later Reproduce As "My own". Though the words were fairly different, the Tune And Feel of the song were the same. I quickly discarded it with embarrassment that I couldn't write my OWN stuff. I think anyone that writes their own stuff will come across that Dejavu feeling at least once in a while, but that was just plain scarey!!! Btw if anyone clicks my name and listens to the 2 songs I have there, by all means comment on them but PLEASE don't tell me if you feel you've heard them before by someone else lol
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While noodling around on my flute, I wrote a melody and started to develop it. It never went anywhere, but every now and then during the lull of a practice session I'd play it and think that someday I'd like to write a B section and flesh out an entire song. BTW, I'm not much of a song writer, my skills are improvisation and arranging and I've rarely finished writing a song, so this was no exception. Fast forward >> >> >> I bought a CD of an LP I had when I was young, Dave Brubeck's "Time Further Out" and I was enjoying the recording. It brought back "old friends" like "It's A Raggy Waltz", "Far More Blue" and eventually "Maori Blues" and as soon as I heard "Maori Blues" I heard the melody I had been noodling around with for years. It was almost note for note. I guess my subconscious remembered it, and my conscious mind thought it was my own. Since I could identify the song that the melody came from, it was unintentional plagiarism. I think it was Igor Stravinsky that said, "A good composer steals, a poor composer plagiarizes." So if you steal snippets from enough songs and put them together in a way that sounds familiar but no so familiar that you can't identify it as someone else's song, I guess you are a good composer. Insights and incites by Notes
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