Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,712
P
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,712
been noodling around on the guitar & keyboard and may have come up with original melodies

the ? how to tell if they are indeed original or put another way how much has to change from a copyrighted work before you can claim it as yours


Lenovo YOGA 900 Window s 10 Home 64bit 16GB RAM\2018 13” MacBook Air casio wk7500 presonus audiobox i2 usb interface
casio wk-7500
biab & realband 2023 everything pk both with Current builds
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 809
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 809
Post it we'll tell you if it sounds too much like someones tune. LOL
For the most part you should be okay as long as you do not use whole sections of melodies or words from other songs.


My website to hear my stuff-

http://www.edbulmer.com/


guitar player, vocalist, sailor
Off-Topic
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 169
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 169
Every song is an original!

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,696
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,696
Try the McCartney method - when he wrote "Yesterday" he couldn't believe he hadn't heard it somewhere else - he ran around asking if his mates had ever heard it before.

I like Ed's idea. Write it and post it.
Writers often learn their trade writing to other people's tunes as an exercise.
Burton Cummings of the Guess Who would use a metronome to set the beat then play some chords - hard not to get something original that way. Set the beat with BB drums and mute everything else - then start to play chords - hard not to get something original that way.

You've got an idea - just write the song - worry about the rest later.
Cheers


Ian
My "Original Tunes" Site
My gene pool needs more chlorine.
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,083
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,083
If you've subconsciously rewrote a song someone will let you know. You're not deliberately copying so,

"You've got an idea - just write the song - worry about the rest later."

+1


Have fun.

Sundance

Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Do it! +1


Follow That Dream

Sam
Karaoke King

--------------------

Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
I'd worry about crossing that particular bridge only if and when it popped up in front of me.


--Mac

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,712
P
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,712
thanks & stay tuned i'll post a rough draft soon working on getting system setup having recently retired


Lenovo YOGA 900 Window s 10 Home 64bit 16GB RAM\2018 13” MacBook Air casio wk7500 presonus audiobox i2 usb interface
casio wk-7500
biab & realband 2023 everything pk both with Current builds
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 809
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 809
Yea there's only so many notes in the scale so it's bound to sound a bit like something. As long as it doesn't sound too much like something LOL>
go for it.


My website to hear my stuff-

http://www.edbulmer.com/


guitar player, vocalist, sailor
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
The question is kinda like Steve Martin's riff on how to make a million dollars and not pay any taxes: "First, make a million dollars. Then, don't pay your taxes. It's simple!"

In your case, record your song, become a commercial success, then wait to see if you get sued. If you don't, it was original.



R.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,689
C
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
C
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,689
Well, I have written some decent songs, but fat chance that they would ever be a commercial success or be noticed.

Don S.

Last edited by Curmudgeon; 08/25/09 02:23 PM.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,258
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,258
I've done that with a tune and was told the first 16 bars sounded exactly like a tune composed by a well known player here in Scotland.
I was told not to worry as this b*gger had copied more tunes and called them his own than anyone else on the planet.
Go for it

Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
I didn't know Jimmy Page was a Scot!

R.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122
Write it.........

If it turns out to be a big hit, then it was probably one of mine originally............


Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,712
P
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,712
touché toucher


Lenovo YOGA 900 Window s 10 Home 64bit 16GB RAM\2018 13” MacBook Air casio wk7500 presonus audiobox i2 usb interface
casio wk-7500
biab & realband 2023 everything pk both with Current builds
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Quote:

Write it.........

If it turns out to be a big hit, then it was probably one of mine originally............






Oh, my....


Follow That Dream

Sam
Karaoke King

--------------------

Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,258
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,258
Quote:

Write it.........

If it turns out to be a big hit, then it was probably one of mine originally............






OR MINE

Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 196
J
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
J
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 196
Anybody have an IPhone (or the latest Ipod that runs the same software)? I understand there are at least a couple of IPhone applications -- Midomi and Shazam -- that let you sing or hum a tune, then search through a database to try to find out what tune that is. If it can find the "original" tune I'm humming, or something really close, that would be something I'd like to know, anyway. (I've got a year and half left on my Verizon contract, but one of these days...)

Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 176
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 176
I Remember writing a song over 20 years ago. Very simple chords as I knew very little about chord structure then (I Know rather less now lol). The lyrics were just as simple. I titled it "The Lonely Fool" . I played it to friends and family with the response that it sounded familiar. It took me about a year before I heard The "Original" song I'd somehow copied without realising. That song was " Poor Little Fool " by Ricky Nelson. Obviously I'd heard it before and had stored it in my subconcious to later Reproduce As "My own". Though the words were fairly different, the Tune And Feel of the song were the same. I quickly discarded it with embarrassment that I couldn't write my OWN stuff.
I think anyone that writes their own stuff will come across that Dejavu feeling at least once in a while, but that was just plain scarey!!!

Btw if anyone clicks my name and listens to the 2 songs I have there, by all means comment on them but PLEASE don't tell me if you feel you've heard them before by someone else lol


Take Care And Be Happy

Mr Mikey
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,334
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,334
While noodling around on my flute, I wrote a melody and started to develop it. It never went anywhere, but every now and then during the lull of a practice session I'd play it and think that someday I'd like to write a B section and flesh out an entire song. BTW, I'm not much of a song writer, my skills are improvisation and arranging and I've rarely finished writing a song, so this was no exception.

Fast forward >> >> >> I bought a CD of an LP I had when I was young, Dave Brubeck's "Time Further Out" and I was enjoying the recording. It brought back "old friends" like "It's A Raggy Waltz", "Far More Blue" and eventually "Maori Blues" and as soon as I heard "Maori Blues" I heard the melody I had been noodling around with for years.

It was almost note for note. I guess my subconscious remembered it, and my conscious mind thought it was my own.

Since I could identify the song that the melody came from, it was unintentional plagiarism.

I think it was Igor Stravinsky that said, "A good composer steals, a poor composer plagiarizes."

So if you steal snippets from enough songs and put them together in a way that sounds familiar but no so familiar that you can't identify it as someone else's song, I guess you are a good composer.

Insights and incites by Notes


Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Update to RealBand® 2025 Build 5 Windows Today!

Already using RealBand® 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 5 now from our Support Page to ensure you have the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Get the latest update today!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 is here! This new version introduces many features, including VST3 support, the ability to load or import a .FLAC file, a reset option for track height in the Tracks window, a taller Timeline on the Notation window toolbar, new freeze buttons in the Tracks window, three toolbar modes (two rows, single row, and none), the improved Select Patch dialog with text-based search and numeric patch display, a new button in the DirectX/VST window to copy an effects group, and more!

First-time packages start at only $49. Already a PowerTracks Pro Audio user? Upgrade for as little as $29!

www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®

Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.

Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.

Check out the forum post for more information.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,092
Posts774,586
Members39,554
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
carolinahuarta, rico digital, michaelrobinson, Aurelia Golden, Jennifer Greene
39,554 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 191
DC Ron 106
rsdean 101
Noel96 96
dcuny 72
Today's Birthdays
Bill Shafer, edsullivan1
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5