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people are telling me that these drives are the bees knees. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2288836,00.asp anyone useing one with rb ?? my reasoning is that rb on the fly is generating traks from the audio on disk so this type of drive performance should enhance the rb experience by a factor over some old clunky hard drive. anyone useing one ??
retired puter engr....powertracks on amd......NICE !
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That link yields a "page not found" error this morning.
Am familiar with the velociraptor drive, though.
For those recording multiple input soundcards, it may be an edge as to track count possibilites, if set up properly to do so with their host recording software.
As for RealTracks/Realdrums generation times, one has to realize what happens when a track is generated in order to figure out how to use faster drives. Storing the base Realtracks files on the faster drive is one thing, but it will hit a bottlenectk whenever generating a Realtrack to playback because BIAB/RB use the C:\Temp drive to store the generated tracks for playback. RB allows us to specify a new drive route for that, but then you will have the same drive reading and then writing to itself at the same time, another possible bottleneck.
A machine that has TWO velociraptors in it, one on the C: drive and a second one for RealTracks storage, should be able to load and generate Realtracks a bit faster, but after that point there is likely little to gain. THREE velociraptor drives, one for C: and system, one for storage of RealTracks and the third's first logical partition for the RealBand host would be interesting.
Band in a Box, however, is a different story entirely. We don't have any setting to route the Temp file to somewhere else, it will always be C:\Temp at this stage of the game. Installing a Velociraptor as your C: drive may speed things up a bit when a set of Realtracks is generating. The amount of time saved may or may not be significant, though. A little bit wider bandwidth with about the same read/write time going on. I think that the read/write cycle is taking the majority of time here.
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mac.
for some reason the forum software wont let me post the link the way i want.
so just drag the mouse over the full line and copy n paste it into your browser.
the reason i'm asking is folks are telling me these are great drives.
what i'm really interested in is any ways that might speed up the auto generation process.
mebe there needs to be a sticky ??
retired puter engr....powertracks on amd......NICE !
"what is the black art of audio engineering ?"
my silly songs...motagator.com/bmanning
see my tips in the tips section.
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I have one here. Actually, two, in the same machine.
Doesn't speed up the generation time of RealTracks enough to justify it, IME.
Does increase possible track count when pushing the multitrack recording angle, though.
I have yet to turn one of the raptors into the C: drive, though. That may make a difference on realtracks generation times.
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Last weekend I had the opportunity to test a 128GB SSD in a Dell Vostro 1220 notebook (Intel P8700 2.53MHz, 4GB RAM).
OS, apps and user data were all stored on the SSD. Nevertheless generating tracks in RB and BIAB was much faster, it really ouclassed any of my HD backed systems, especially with pagefile turned off and therefore no swapping.
Unfortunately the Dell has an issue with DCP latency spikes and I have to send it back. (It seems that all current laptop models by Dell have that, so choose careful if you consider buying one for audio apps or as DAW.) But I am absolutely convinced by SSD. It really made a huge difference.
So I will wait for a couple of months or a year maybe until SSD prices drop into a reasonable range. I don't think the old "turntable"-drives will have much of a future. So I wouldn't go for the Velociraptors.
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Interestimg report, thanks much, Septolus.
Use of SSD for the C: drive plus storage ,ut have sped up the Realtracks generation dance from stored realtrack file to generated file on same drive's Temp because of the faster R/W cycles inherent.
The good folks at the day job so far won't spare any for me to take home and experiment like that. <boo>
What *brand* SSD is that?
TIA.
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thanks for the comments on ssd mate.
retired puter engr....powertracks on amd......NICE !
"what is the black art of audio engineering ?"
my silly songs...motagator.com/bmanning
see my tips in the tips section.
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@ Mac: It was a Samsung ATA-SSD PB22-JS3, 2,5", 128GB @manning1: My pleasure! 
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If I may add a word of caution here. SSD's hold tremendous promise, but currently they have a limited write lifetime. the better ones use algorithms to spread the "wear" but they will still fail much quicker than a traditional HDD. If life span and price is no object, then go for it. But if they are factors, then, for now, you should carefully consider your choice. You may actually be better off with a hardware RAM drive of some kind. The issues revolve around limited write cycles - see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#DisadvantagesThere are more in depth discussions around if you're interested, but this wil give a little insight.
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya  --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
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