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Been a while since I posted. Have a problem when converting the midi to wave in that randomly the melody instrument will be perfect when played back, but will be off 1 beat past the melody voice change when converted to a wave file. It does it no matter how I try. There is one thing that I just thought of.......could it be the amount of memory that I have? I only have one gig of memory and can add no more. Maybe someone has a solution to the problem. Thanks
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I don't think this is a memory issue, at least not in the amount of ram available.
Check carefully by listening to the song play back, does the voice change exactly at the right place or is there a lag between when it is supposed to change and it actually does?
--Mac
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Thanks Mac,
When it is playing back, it is right on the money all the way through the whole song. When I convert it, even sending it to the clip board on Power Tracks, the last voice bleeds into the next voice by one beat. I have not tried converting a completely different song to see if it does the same thing.
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Maybe it is due to use of a softsynth and there is a latency factor, dunno.
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Well, Mac thanks anyway. I am going to try converting a different file that I created earlier this year and see if it does the same thing.
Thanks again.........John
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Hi John,
I Gb of ram is not that generous nowadays especially and if you are using Realtracks etc, it sounds like a drag on the processing power
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Jazzman, thanks for the info, I will give it a try. As for the Memory I am aware of the need for at least 2gig of memory, but sadly the wonderful folks at HP only put a mobo in that will only handle 1gig of memory........it's time for a new computer.
John
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I don't know how old your computer is but often the specs represented the limitations of the day. I have a 2004 Compaq that the specs say the max is 1GB. Back then the biggest memory cards were 512mb. Lo and behold, I'm now running 1.5GB with no problems after swapping out a 512mb for a 1gb.
If you go to one of the computer stores such as Tiger Direct and run the memory configurator it will show what the max is. If they don't have your model, somebody else will.
Rachael
p.s. If you're running XP, 1gb should not be a problem. You can check the usage with the Windows Task Manager (CTRL ALT DEL) and click on the Performance tab.
Last edited by Rachael; 10/11/09 06:44 AM.
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I routinely test BIAB using only 512m ram during the beta tests, I pull out all the sticks but two 256s at some point just to see if it will still do what it is supposed to do and to date it always does.
Things that are likely to use more RAM:
*Forte Coyote DXi synth. Loads its soundfonts into RAM. Not advisable to use with "small" amounts of ram, although with XP and 1g ram, should run okay with the "stock" soundbank it ships with. Tested to do so here.
*RealTime DX Effects -- These load directly into RAM. If you have an Audio track going on and also have a DX Effect invoked, this may prove problematic when using less than 1gig of ram. But nothing is "etched in stone" here. You should try it out and see what you get on your own system, for there are way too many variables involved.
*Single Density Ram vs DDR Double Density Ram -- If the motherboard is designed to use DDR ram but you have loaded up the two available slots with mismatched ram sizes, you may be taking a performance hit here as the motherboard will automatically revert to Single Density upon bootup if the BIOS detects two differently sized ram sticks in the slots. The ram count may look to be higher, but you are only going to get one memory cycle per clock cycle instead of two.
I tend to doubt that this particular reported problem is due to lack of ram at this point. More than likely a softsynth glitch using the Render process, or perhaps a hard to duplicate program bug, perhaps just a single instance of a corrupted songfile or something like that.
TIP: If the song plays back fine, try using another recording program such as the free Audacity or Powertracks, Realband, etc. to RECORD BIAB as it plays back from beginning to end of song to get your stereo wav file of the song playing right. This bypasses the auto-Render stuff entirely, which seems to be where the glitch is.
--Mac
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Mac & Rachael,
Have since converted a previous song put together less than a month ago and it turned out ok. I think Mac is probably on the right track. I am beginning to think that is has something to do with the style and or with the voice which in this case it 49-1 (Strings & Trumpet). When I check the numbers in the SAVE + button, it comes up 49 only and will not allow me to enter 49-1.....returning to original settings does not change a thing in this instance.
I will keep trying...........Thanks guys.
John
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If you're using the upper patches (which it sounds like), you probably need a Bank 0 and LSB number also. Select your part and hit the GM2 button. Select the 49/1 from the GM patches and it should fill in the Bank and LSB for you. In the Save+ screen, I think you will need to check the boxes to save these.
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Rachael, I have been using the edit for current bar section to select the Patches when I want to change the voices and also will use the SAVE + to secure the voices I have chosen. I even went so far as to start over with NEW SONG from scratch only to have the same problem. I was thinking about uninstalling BB and reinstalling, but I can't remember if I have the original Installation CD.......my last version is 2007.5.
Thanks, John
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.......my last version is 2007.5.
Thanks, John
I think you are up against a known bug that was not fixed until BB2009 or so.
If the Patch change you are attempting to use involves Upper Banks, this is the bug.
If that is the case, then the only fix I know would be to upgrade your version of BB.
--Mac
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Thanks Mac, I have considered it, but I think I am going to have to upgrade to a larger computer: maybe an AMD810 processor and 4gig of ram before I add the newer software. Again thanks to all of you that responded.
John
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