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I'm interested in upgrading my 2017 ultra plus Pak for PC to the 2019 Audiophile and also purchase all the available realtracks and styles.

Do the xtra styles 1-6 come in wav format or are they compressed if I buy the Audiophile version?

If I want to upgrade Audiophile next year can I just download any new content in wav format?

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My understanding is that if you purchase any extras for the Audiophile version, they will come in both Wma and Wav format (what else would be the point?). All Audiophile real tracks have both formats available. The program selects the WAV if available, otherwise the WMA.

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Generally speaking a 'new year' version release for Audiophile doesn't allow to only download the Audiophile files. The web site only shows a USB hard drive distribution. Others will know more.


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Hi,

Styles are neither wav nor wma. It is the Realtracks or Realdrums that are wav or wma.

All a style file does is to provide an easy way to open a collection of Realtracks (or MIDI or SuperMIDI tracks) and Realdrums that work together to create pleasant sounds across multiple genres.

The above said, the style files are an amazing convenience. Given that there are well over 2,000 Realtracks these days, I'd never be able to work out what goes best with what. Thus style files make it very, very easy for me to find some really great musical ensembles!

In other words, if you are getting the Audiophile edition, there's no need to worry about compressed or wav style files. I would make sure, though, that you double-check that any bonus packages will be added to the Audiophile drive as wav files. I also suggest getting all Xtra styles as these are really great and are a convenient way of working with Realtracks, etc.

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Thanks for clarifying that Noel. Yes, there are no WAV or WMA 'Styles', only WAV or WMA RealTracks and/or RealDrums. The Style is the 'glue' that puts the music together.


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When I have purchased any extra Paks, I tell Sales that I have the audiophile version. They then include the .WAV files for any RealTracks that are part of that package.


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Hi Lads

Many thanks for your help, if I can download any future upgrades to Audiophile 2019 I will purchase,

I don't want to have to purchase the full lot again with the hard drive, it would cost too much with shipping and UK customs costs.

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I think they now offer delivery on a flash drive, too. I don't know if the audiophile update would fit (the full audiophile version surely would not). You might ask. Somewhere in another recent post, Videotrack listed the size of the files to download; it wasn't too bad.

That problem with customs costs comes up a lot in posts here.


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Hi Loopyfruit,

How much is the custom costs? I fear them as well...

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Thanks Matt.


Hi Will

I maybe wrong on this but I think here in UK it is 2.5% customs duty, then the courier charges APX £15 to collect the duty and on top of that there is a 20% VAT charge on the value of the goods and fees.

I am only willing to take this hit if in future I can download any new updates or add-ons for Audiophile.

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The Audiophile upgrade from your 2017 UltraPlusPAK would be $499, and ships on a USB hard drive - due to its size, it's not available for download, and cannot ship on a flash drive.

The Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box purchase, and can be added here: https://www.pgmusic.com/xtrastyles.php?os=win

These work with the existing RealTracks in your UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile purchase (example: the new Xtra Styles PAK 6 works with the 2018 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile) - so, if you use these with an installed Audiophile version, then it will use the uncompressed RealTracks and RealDrums.

If you decide to purchase a 2019 Audiophile Edition, and want to upgrade it next year once 2020 is available (I can't believe it's almost 2020!), then there will be an additional discount - usually this type of purchase is $199 - it would still ship as a complete Audiophile hard drive though.


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Callie, thanks for giving this clear answer.

Do you think it might be feasible in the future to develop a Plus Pak Audiophile version? Does PG Music know how large a capacity it would have to be? If this could be stored on a very large flash drive it would cut the cost of the import taxes for some users considerably.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Callie, thanks for giving this clear answer.

Do you think it might be feasible in the future to develop a Plus Pak Audiophile version? Does PG Music know how large a capacity it would have to be? If this could be stored on a very large flash drive it would cut the cost of the import taxes for some users considerably.

I suggested elsewhere: some kind of protected torrent download system fur huge downloads could be an alternative. Users share their computers as participating servers reducing the download activity from the motherload carrying server. Like with the California Goldrush, the gold quickly dispersed when the gold hungry general Joe Blows came in by the thousands digging up a share. Steinberg and Toontrack do it with their download managers. But 1.6 TB is a lot compared to the 30-40 GB file sizes from latter companies.

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True but I’m not talking about downloading the whole audiophile version at 1.6 TB, which is as large as you say. I’m talking about a PlusPak of just what’s necessary to update last year’s audiophile version to this year. Much smaller.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Callie, thanks for giving this clear answer.

Do you think it might be feasible in the future to develop a Plus Pak Audiophile version? Does PG Music know how large a capacity it would have to be? If this could be stored on a very large flash drive it would cut the cost of the import taxes for some users considerably.


It's definitely worth looking into!

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The Audiophile upgrade from your 2017 UltraPlusPAK would be $499, and ships on a USB hard drive - due to its size, it's not available for download, and cannot ship on a flash drive.

The Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box purchase, and can be added here: https://www.pgmusic.com/xtrastyles.php?os=win

These work with the existing RealTracks in your UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile purchase (example: the new Xtra Styles PAK 6 works with the 2018 UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile) - so, if you use these with an installed Audiophile version, then it will use the uncompressed RealTracks and RealDrums.

If you decide to purchase a 2019 Audiophile Edition, and want to upgrade it next year once 2020 is available (I can't believe it's almost 2020!), then there will be an additional discount - usually this type of purchase is $199 - it would still ship as a complete Audiophile hard drive though.


Hi Callie

Thanks for confirming.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
True but I’m not talking about downloading the whole audiophile version at 1.6 TB, which is as large as you say. I’m talking about a PlusPak of just what’s necessary to update last year’s audiophile version to this year. Much smaller.


Hi Matt

This is what I would like to do, after first buying the full Audiophile USB drive then in coming years just download any additional updates.

I'm sure it would boost sales for Audiophile from those having to import.

If this can be done in the future count me in.

Thanks everyone for your inputs on this.

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