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Two questions here:
1. Suppose you run Mac BIAB 2009.5 off the PG-supplied USB hard drive, and -- as PG releases updates -- you download and update that hard drive to run the latest version of BIAB and any updated real tracks. What happens if you later decide to install BIAB directly onto your Mac's system hard drive? You'll be using the installer program that BIAB supplied on the USB drive -- but won't that installer actually be putting an "old" (pre-updated, originally shipped) version of BIAB onto your drive? One would ideally want to update the PG-supplied USB drive so that the active copy of BIAB is updated, AND the PG installer knows enough to install that updated version of BIAB and any updated tracks on another drive, if one decides to go that route. Does that happen automatically when one downloads updated versions of BIAB and realtracks to the USB drive? If not, is any way to make it happen, or an efficient workaround?
2. I'm always confused when I see an announcement in the PG forum that real tracks have been updated. It's easy enough for me to check that I have the latest version of Mac BIAB (build 8 as I write this), but how can I tell quickly if all my real tracks are up to date? I suspect I end up re-installing when I may not need to.
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To install the program on the Mac hard drive just drag it from the USB to your main hard drive , I believe that should work and the installer should be moved along with it if you are then going to be operating and maintaining the program on the main drive. Or are you trying to maintain a back up file?
As to part 2 - I guess using "get info" to check the date the files were created. I'm only aware of one update on the real tracks which was for those who are updating BIAB 2009 , if you have BIAB 2009.5 shouldn't all your tracks be current?
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BIAB can be copied directly on the PC, but I'm not sure that is the case with the Mac version, Pete.
Anyway, if you do run the installer from outrigger drive, the only update you will have to apply would be the last one available, as it will contain all the stuff that came before it as well as the latest and greatest additions.
RealTracks, well, you have already updated them. Those can be just copied from outrigger drive to the RealTracks folder and done.
At least, that is all I did.
--Mac
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BIAB can be copied directly on the PC, but I'm not sure that is the case with the Mac version, Pete.
--Mac
That gets to what I was worried about: I'm no expert here, but I've found that with most Mac programs, you can't just copy the application from one drive or folder to another -- do that, and in many cases it won't work. There is typically an installer program that must be run, and it installs a number of necessary files in other places. Mac OS X has a Library folder, for example, and inside it there's a folder called Application Support. Typically, each program will have its own support folder inside "Application Support." To add to the confusion, Mac OS X has a Library folder for the computer it's running on, and another one (with its own Application Support folder, and more folders inside that) for each User on that computer. I think an installer program may also be putting files in other "hidden" or not obvious places -- in the Preferences folder (also in the Library folder), for example. I just opened my Application Support folder(s), and it turns out I've got folders in there for just about every music/audio application I own, or its vendor -- Logic, GarageBand, Native Instruments, Roxio, Garritan, etc. The lone exception seems to be PG -- I don't see an application support folder for PG or BIAB, so perhaps BIAB does not work in this way. Still, I think the PG installer must be doing some extra work besides copying files (installing fonts, at least?) -- or why does PG give us an installer, and tell us to use it?
So it seems to me (somebody tell me I'm wrong) that down the road, I'd still need to install BIAB using the installer that came on PG's USB hard drive -- and even if I've updated the BIAB program running on the drive, wouldn't it still be installing an old version (and/or any resources for that old version)?
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Anyway, if you do run the installer from outrigger drive, the only update you will have to apply would be the last one available, as it will contain all the stuff that came before it as well as the latest and greatest additions.
--Mac
I hope it's true that all I'd have to do then is run PG's latest update, and it would update my build 5, for example, to build 15 or whatever it is then. But it seems to me that often software updates don't work that way -- jump a few versions ahead, and often you've got to do several time-consuming intermediate updates before you can update to the latest version. Again, I hope PG is the exception here.
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PGMusic updates do indeed work that way. Installing the latest update installs everything that came before it. That much I'm certain about, Mac or PC versions.
--Mac
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Band-in-a-Box doesn't use the myriad of different locations to put those files... everything resides in the BB folder. So the Preferences reside in the BB folder (in a Preferences folder), instead of wherever the recommended location for Preferences files are supposed to be.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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