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Hi
I'm looking for some advice. I've been using Band in a Box and Realband for a couple of years. Using them on a desktop with Windows Vista Home Premium / 1GB Ram / 3.00 Ghz processor / a lexicon Lambda. Really like both products a lot but do get various problems which seem to be associated with Vista (e.g. neither program ever closes cleanly, no matter what).
I'm planning to buy a laptop to use with BiaB and RB and am wondering if anyone can advise me on the best laptop/best laptop spec/ best operating system (should I try to go back to XP or buy Vista Professional or something?).
All advice gratefully received...
Thanks
Dennis
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Hi Dennis - welcome to the forum!
I run everything on HP laptops under Win XP Pro. No problems.
What's your budget?
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Hi Dennis,
There are some great Netbooks out there now. The main thing is the OS issue, I can't recommend Windows 7 highly enough. It's working great for me, I would never go back to Vista! Almost any new Netbook you buy now will have Win 7 preinstalled. Until you are ready to migrate to a Macbook Pro and Snow Leapord, this is the way to go.
Just my 2 cents, Ed
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You are also going to be hard pressed to find a laptop with a stereo line-in connector; you may have to consider an external USB alternative. Most of the major brands now offer only a monophonic microphone input; some do allow you to reconfigure this to be a stereo line-in (I have heard), but it seems that many laptops have completely abandoned stereo line-in.
If you require stereo line-in, then be sure to ask before you buy.
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Re stereo line-in: get a TASCAM US-122 USB or better
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labrys/WienSam:
This is what Musician's Friend has noted for the Tascam product:
"We're sorry, this product has been discontinued."
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I've got a Toshiba Qosmio...very expensive but very cool. Only problem is that I took it to a computer tech (?) to have the DC adapter male-socket replaced, and $80 bucks later he said..."your computer unfortunately is trashed. The power-on light now blinks, and that's a bad sign. Also I found you had spilled something in it and that's probably the straw that broke..... BS, when I brought it in it only had a display prob, thanks to the Toshiba receptical for the adapter in need of being replaced. I am determined to work on it myself and bring it to life...or I'll create a real Frankenstein out of it and lead it back to this stupid tech's shop. I swear to God, he'll hear about it if I am able to clean it up and get it running, cause it's such a beautiful computer with XP-Pro inside. I heard today that Nokia, the phone company, is striking back, with ATT's help with a new razzle-dazzle netbook with Windoze 7. Because they're marketing Nokia's entry into the netbook market, the cost will be extremely low, altho it'll cost about $120 bucks annually for ATT isp service....it'll be as cheap as some of their new phones that are loaded with the new razzle-dazzle music/networking software and will easily sync everything--your internet/phone/music/broads.... Hey, maybe it'll be worth the 50% off suggested retail!? http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1009/668164.html 
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labrys/WienSam:
This is what Musician's Friend has noted for the Tascam product:
"We're sorry, this product has been discontinued."
I know. It has been. It has been upgraded and updated - go to TASCAM's website to find the latest
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I've got a Toshiba Qosmio...very expensive but very cool. Only problem is that I took it to a computer tech (?) to have the DC adapter male-socket replaced, and $80 bucks later he said..."your computer unfortunately is trashed. The power-on light now blinks, and that's a bad sign. Also I found you had spilled something in it and that's probably the straw that broke.....
BS, when I brought it in it only had a display prob, thanks to the Toshiba receptical for the adapter in need of being replaced. I am determined to work on it myself and bring it to life...or I'll create a real Frankenstein out of it and lead it back to this stupid tech's shop.
I swear to God, he'll hear about it if I am able to clean it up and get it running, cause it's such a beautiful computer with XP-Pro inside.
I heard today that Nokia, the phone company, is striking back, with ATT's help with a new razzle-dazzle netbook with Windoze 7.
Because they're marketing Nokia's entry into the netbook market, the cost will be extremely low, altho it'll cost about $120 bucks annually for ATT isp service....it'll be as cheap as some of their new phones that are loaded with the new razzle-dazzle music/networking software and will easily sync everything--your internet/phone/music/broads.... Hey, maybe it'll be worth the 50% off suggested retail!? http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/1009/668164.html
I hear you brother, I hear you.
You have to be your own techie these days or they will rip you off! Know what I mean?
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
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Hi. My budget limit is around £1500 (I'm guessing that's about $2,000?). Dennis
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Hi Ed. That's useful to know - cheers - Dennis
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Thanks for that. I think I'll try to steer clear of that Computer tech guy but maybe have a look at the Toshiba Qosmio (which I'd not heard of before). Dennis
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Take a good look at the Dell E6400 (or the wider screen in this line - "Latitude"). I moved to this Dell from years with HP because this model has a BACKLIT KEYBOARD. As far as I know, it's the only full key laptop that does ... and it's such a change to be able to see those keys in low light. The E6400 and other Latitude models can be configured just about any way you want them.
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labrys i gotta be frank mate. ive been testing a ton of lappies from /for friends, and i know some will disagree with me.. but frankly with most the problems are many. for example slow drives and poor firewire chipsets. if your serious bout a laptop i would suggest getting one built specifically for daw audio work. eg adkproaudio.com. these have proper drives and chipsets. TI for example. but they cost of course. all lappies i'm trying right now are failing the dpc test and need tweaking. RUN THIS TEST BEFORE BUYING !! http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtmlyoull get red spikes..i guarantee it. haveing said that some folks get away with useing a cheap lappie... often by luck rather than carefull planning. i personally am staying desktop for now cos i feel lappies need to go thru another round of re engineering. sorry for my strong feelings on this topic, but my opinion will not be swayed. ive seen too many folks get problems. particularly as trak counts rise .
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Dennis - take a look at www.wstore.co.uk They are in the UK and I always buy direct from them now (they will even ship to Austria). I have also recommended them to friends and nobody has ever had a complaint whom I know of. Personally, I have bought 3 HPs from them over the last 9 years or so - all of which are still running with no problems. I should say the most important thing is the RAM, particularly if you want to use it specifically as a DAW with PG software. Personally, I always go for HP and have never had any problems with them. You can try out all sorts of combinations online of screen size, HD size, RAM, CPU, etc. The Compaq 610 Notebook is on special offer on the front page there at the moment and looks like a nice job and a third of the price you are willing to pay, with next day delivery. For what its worth, I have a top-of-the-range EliteBook which cost just under 3 grand in May but there is an EliteBook 2730 available at 1,503 exc VAT  As to the OS, stay with XP Pro. I have
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One word.
ThinkPad
The ThinkPad I bought in 2002 is still running. I play one-nighters for a living, and it bounces in the van, bounces on the keyboard stand, goes from hot to cold, and generally takes abuse.
Well, the CMOS battery did fail after 7 years of faithful service (new one cost a couple of bucks at RadioShack) and the tech who installed it said that the ThinkPads are simply the best laptops on the market.
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Notes, I'm sure you have put your ThinkPad through some real tests. That's a very good recommendation. However, you say that it's 7 years old? Machines have changed a lot since you bought yours. The ThinkPad of today might be vastly different from yours. Now, I don't actually know that's the case, but I know that it's true for the Toshibas. The problem for all of is, that the new computers haven't been through 7 year tests.....yet.
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I've had a Toshiba Satellite Laptop that I bought about 8 years ago when Win XP first came out. It's slow but it still runs great.
The harder I work the luckier I get.
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Donsta. I have one too, but my wife's has a few more features. Mine's not as old as yours. I like it but I think that I probably need a better sound card. Since mine works okay, I'm just going to hold out as long as I can. I'm not upgrading to Win 7 either.
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