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Supposing that I have made a nice song using Realtracks and Realdrums with a solo and melody plus a singer track and that I like the sound of the instruments. How can I keep a copy of this song including the sounds? I know that I can freeze a song but that process wants to use a dxi virtual instrument which I really don't care for. What I really want is to keep the audio that BIAB has generated. I could record it using something like Audacity or Cakewalk Pyro but is there something inside BIAB that does the same job? Thanks in advance.
Mike.
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The DXi is invoked for automatic "Rendering". If you use only RealTracks and no MIDI sounds, you can still use the DXi Render to make a wav or mp3 file of your song. Afterwards, BIAB opens the MIDI select window automatically so that you can UNcheck that "Use DXi" button again and continue on as before.
Another method, which depends on your soundcard type, is to record the song to the single Audio track in BIAB as it plays back. Soundcards that can route their output to their input internally can do this (What U Hear or Stereo Mix or some other name may be used in the Record Properties to denote this ability).
If you have a vocal or acoustic instrument already recorded to the single Audio track in BIAB, then the record to Audio won't help you because you already have something on that track. RealBand might be the answer, or export all your tracks and open them in your Cakewalk for the finish to wav.
BTW -- I often just play BIAB back while recording in another recording program to capture the thing. Just set BIAB to MME audio drivers so that only one program is attempting to use ASIO drivers at a time and open your recording program, set the soundcard properties for the armed stereo track to record the output and record the song from start to finish in the sequencer. Audacity works great for this and when the recording part is done I go to Effects, Gain Change and immediately set the gain to about -1.8dB for most musics, it turns things up and sound much better because most MIDI synths are low in output by design.
73 de KE3WD
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Hi Mac.
I have been exerimenting and have found a workable solution to my problem. I wasn't aware that Realband could do part of the work of BIAB and was very surprised when trying it. A small part of the the job can be done in BIAB like entering the chords and generating the tracks using Realtracks. After that, I save everything as an .mgu file and load that into Realband. In Realband, I can do the audio work like singing or entering an instrument and harmonizing. If I save the song as a .seq type, it can be loaded afterwards and everything is as it was before. I can even regenerate Realtracks while in Realband, that one surprised me. It's a shame that Realband doesn't have all the features of Powertracks, it would be a killer program. Thanks for your comments, they help me a lot. I hope that my English is no too bad because I normally speak and write French, being from Quebec.
73 de VE2CJW
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Hi Mac.
It's a shame that Realband doesn't have all the features of Powertracks, it would be a killer program. Thanks for your comments, they help me a lot. I hope that my English is no too bad because I normally speak and write French, being from Quebec.
73 de VE2CJW
Mike.
Mike, I do believe the general understanding is that RB has ALL the capabilities of PT, with the exception of the Audio Harmonizer which it uses from PT. Glad you are discovering this neat application.
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I am also using audacity to record my biab songs and then adding my acoustic gtr & vocals there.
One issue I am having is when I play back a biab song WITHOUT recording it plays great but when I record it using audacity the biab will miss a beat or be offtime randomly. Not a lot but 2-3 times in a song.
any advice on that?
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Hi,
Make sure that you do not have background services working that interupt the process - dial - ups ,and auto updaters can do this as well
Set the computer to favor performance priority and not background services
When I am recording I run the computer in Guest mode with nothing else running and that I have previously disk cleaned and defragged
jazzman
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I wasn't aware that Realband could do part of the work of BIAB and was very surprised when trying it. A small part of the the job can be done in BIAB like entering the chords and generating the tracks using Realtracks.
For most projects Real Band does all of the functions of Biab. RB has the same chord grid as Biab so you can start your tune from scratch in RB by entering the chords. The one useful exception is generating a midi soloist. RB can't do that so you would have to create the soloist in Biab first, save it as a midi file and open that up in RB. Note this is only for the midi soloists, not the Real Track ones. RB handles all of the Real Tracks/Drums including the RT soloists. Also, RB is exactly the same as Power Tracks, there's nothing missing. What PG did was to add most of the Biab functions to it and called it Real Band. They even added the TC Helicon to RB if you have a recent copy of PT that includes that.
What RB really allows you to do is to create a midi/audio song either from scratch or from a source midi file, add live audio tracks to it like a vocal or live instrument and then add some Biab style tracks for extra flavor. Those style tracks can be created by first selecting a style, right clicking on a blank track and selecting the midi instrument you want. This can be very cool because you can create say a certain guitar or piano part just for that one track only and see how it sounds in the mix. Don't like it, delete it and try another style. Using this method, you may use several Biab styles on different tracks for different instruments to go with your prerecorded midi or audio tracks.
The more you learn about RB, the better you'll like it.
Bob
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