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hallo liebe User,
ist es in BIAB möglich, eine Melodie z.B. im 5/4 Takt zu schreiben, ohne das die störenden Violinschlüssel nach dem 3 Viertel auftauchen?
Danke für die Info
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Hallo Fred.
Leider ist es mit Band in a Box nicht möglich, z.B. 5/4 Takte anders einzugeben als einen 3/4 und einen 2/4 Takt hintereinander. Das gilt auch für andere krummzahlige Takte. Diese werden immer aus Kombinationen von 1/4- bis 4/4-Takten aufgebaut und angezeigt.
Es ist ein schon lang geäußerter Wunsch, das auch mit korrekter Notation zu ermöglichen.
Es werden also die Taktangaben bei jedem Taktwechsel angezeigt, allerdings nicht die Schlüssel. Ist das tatsächlich bei dir so, dass auch der Schlüssel immer neu auftaucht?
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Hallo Brille,
Nein ich habe mich verschrieben, es tauchen die Taktarten auf.
Danke für deine Info, man kann nur hoffen, daß das Problem behoben wird
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Hallo Fred mach es doch auf die einfache art. Lade einfach Take Five und ändere die Accorde. Liebe Grüsse Renato 
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Meine Deutsche sprache ist nicht so gut, aber sie reden von etwas das ich ebenso erfahrte. Biab kann genau notieren was gespiellt werd (midi input z.b.). Die wiedergabe is gut aber es ist nicht möglich um zu quantizen, Biab kann kein 5/4 erkennen. Also, ich mache ein Styl in 5/4 in ein Midi programm und ich schränke die midi so das es in einen 4/4 passt. Die erste beat is die erste Beat von ein 5/4. Nun kan ich in 5/4 spielen in Biab. Nicht einfach, aber... Auf mein website können sie hören wie ich das versuche. Sie können beispiele hören hier: https://www.jazzstylezz.com/shop (Select odd meter) Schwer zu lesen (melodie, z.b.) aber wenn du denkt in 5/4 klingt es genau 5/4.
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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Hello Dzjang.
I have now heard for the first time about your styles, which I have looked at right away on your website. Very good work, I will surely buy one or the other style and try it out.
Is it possible to buy all styles as a bundle for a special price?
Especially the bass lines are sounding very inspiring - what do you think about developing Soloists-Styles für Double Bass?
Ich habe zum ersten Mal von deinen Styles gehört, die ich mir gleich mal auf Deiner Webseite angesehen habe. Sehr gute Arbeit, ich werde sicher mal den einen oder anderen Style kaufen und ausprobieren. Kann man auch alle Styles als günstiges Paket kaufen? Ich bin neugierig, ob du nicht auch Kontrabass-Soloisten-Styles entwickeln möchtest, weil Band in a Box da nur wenig im Angebot hat?
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Cool, thx.
Yes, there are no bass soloists, which is really too bad.
I especially dig Christian McBride, Rueben Rogers, Dave Holland and -not cool, maybe, but still- Gary Peacock.
For the moment habe ich keine ahnung how those soloists are put together.
I will look into it.
I’m working towards bundles of 10 styles. But it will take me some time (weeks, maybe). I thought:
Ecm bundle
Bread and Butter Bundle (modern versions of styles ranging from ballad to fast bop and some latin and 3/4)
Odd meters bundle (5/4 to 13/8)
Ballad bundle
Modern Bossa bundle
Medium tempo bundle (mix of modern even and swing styles)
Modal bundle
Fast bop bundle
Hope to get it ready and running by end of october
Thx a lot
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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Hallo Dzjang,
In welcher Sprache schreibt man dich denn am besten an, du bist ja hier in deutschen Forum? Where are you located, just to choose the right language, is it Belgium?
And yes, Reuben Rogers is a fantastic soloist, also Brian Bromberg.
Brille
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Thank you for your info, I like your 5/4 style, but my problem is:
I want to write notes in 5/4-time in the score editor. BIAB makes a 3/4 and 2/4 time signature every beat alternating. The musical notation becomes illegible.
Maybe you can write to the developer, so that this problem is finally resolved.
Thx a lot
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Hallo Fred,
das Problem ist leider ungefähr so alt, wie Band in a Box selbst und bereits häufig als Wunsch an die Entwickler formuliert worden. Dazu sind aber wohl große Umbauten in der Programmstruktur notwendig – auch um die Auf- und Abwärtskompatibilität zu wahren, die ja eine der großen Stärken von BiaB ist. Du kannst mit der aktuellen Programmversion auch 20 Jahre alte Songdateien öffnen und genauso mit älteren Programmversionen aktuelle Songfiles.
PG Music verweist stets darauf, dass BiaB kein Notensatzprogramm ersetzt. Aber du hast recht, es wäre großartig, würde das mal ordentlich funktionieren.
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Hey Brille and Fred, I understand and read German, but I can not write it. It’s been more than thirty years since I left high school and had German for 2 years, 2 hours per week. I managed to forget all about the writing, but can still enjoy reading and listening to German language, I used to dig a live jazz program where a funny bearded bass player addressed us with: Guten Abend Liebe Jazz-Freunde, Biab is tone-deaf! Read my post https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=77508&Number=546844#Post546844Sad, isn’t it?
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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Hallo Dzjang.
Ich möchte mal eine Lanze für PG-Music brechen:
Peter Gannon hat vor über 20 Jahren begonnen, ein Programm zu entwickeln, das es ihm erlaubt, sich zum Üben eine Begleitband aus dem Computer zu zaubern. Es gab damals kein Programm, dass so etwas möglich machte.
Hinter PGMusic steckt kein großes Softwareunternehmen. Die technische Entwicklung und Weiterentwicklung liegt in den Händen einiger weniger Programmierer (und Musiker).
Band in a Box ist ein Nischenprogramm - anders als z.B. Word oder Photoshop, deren große Verbreitung auch große Programmierteams mit dem entsprechenden Overhead erlauben.
Im Forum werden häufiger große Erwartungen an die Software und deren Funktionen formuliert – teilweise auch in etwas ungehaltenem Ton - "Warum kann das Programm dies nicht? Warum macht es jenes nicht so, wie ich es möchte?".
Du kannst sicher sein, das PG Music-Team liest alle Hinweise und Vorschläge und wenn möglich, werden Fehler behoben oder Funktionen ergänzt – mitunter deutlich schneller, als bei "großen" Softwarehäusern.
Aber nicht alles lässt sich kurzfristig umsetzen - das liegt auch in der Entwicklungsgeschichte des Programmes begründet und der notwendigen und zweckmäßigen Rückwärtskompatibilität zu alten Songdateien.
Insgesamt hat das Programm trotz aller Einschränkungen für mich als Musiker einen sehr großen Nutzwert und ich möchte es nicht missen.
Und es hat auch eine sehr aktive Community - die, wie du es ja mit deinen (übrigens sehr empfehlenswerten!) Style-Dateien auch tust – rege die Weiterentwicklung des Programms unterstützen.
Also: Du hast Recht, auch ich habe eine lange Wunschliste, was das Programm noch so alles können soll. Aber ich bin trotzallem auch sehr zufrieden mit dem, was es bereits kann.
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Ja auch ich finde dass es ein Außergewöhnliches Programm ist, das mit 5/4 sowie mit 3/4 tel oder 7/(4)8 tel habe ich via tolischer Aufteilung gelöst da die Band ja keine Liedstime spielt für mich als Percussionist eher logischer Aufbau. Da ich eher Playbacks für Solisten oder Sänger zum üben erstelle, Noten erstelle ich mit Toccata z.B. Jedoch wird es via midi datei 0/1 dann gesendet.
LG Matze
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
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-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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