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I'm a new user so this may be a silly question...
I have just bought BiaB and found out that the Roland VSC Dxi won't work with my Windows 7 64-bit. However if I only plan to use RealTracks anyway (they're supposed to be better) then I wouldn't need DXi anyway, as RealTracks doesn't need/use Dxi?
I know that I can buy the Forte DXi but I'm thinking I probably wouldn't need it anyway.
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Hi Capn, The DXi synth handles MIDI output. Windows 7/64 bit includes a synth "MS GS Wavetable synth", so you will get a very similar sound to the VSC DXi . It is just that the synth isn't a plugin (DXi or VST), so the MIDI sounds cannot be rendered (converted) to an audio file (WAV). So for just playing and listening, you will have a MIDI synth. To get a plugin type of synth, then yes, either the Coyote Forte ($40 from PG Music) or the Roland TTS-1 ($40, included with CakeWalk Music Creator www.cakewalk.com) would work. And yes, if you are only using RealTracks, the MIDI synth is irrelevant, since no MIDI data is getting sent.,
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Peter Gannon
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And yes, if you are only using RealTracks, the MIDI synth is irrelevant, since no MIDI data is getting sent.,
Not 100% completely true.
Even if only using Real Tracks, rendering does not work on a 64-bit Windows 7 machine unless Forte is installed.
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On this page http://www.pgmusic.com/tutorial_bbwrender.htm#realtime there are 3 methods listed for rendering songs to a WAV. Without having DXi can I still render using option 1 (ie record the song in real time)? Ultimately I bought BiaB so that I can quickly make backing tracks, save them as an MP3, and then play along with the recording in a live performance. I'm just trying to work out if DXi is essential for this, or just a "nice to have".
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I would consider it an "essential" for the recording the MIDI tracks.
You can record in realtime, but that an awkward way to do it, and would be tedious with hundreds of files.
The Roland TTS-1 is a step up from the VSC in sound quality, similar sounds, just better quality.
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With this release, BB2010, you no longer need a DXi in order to Render Realtracks to WAV.
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Thanks everyone - I think I understand the issues now 
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The bonus 10Pak, that is included with BB 2010 (until Dec. 31 2009), includes a Forte demo, which works for 30 days. And Forte works in all versions of Windows, including XP, Vista (32 or 64 bit) and Windows 7 (32 or 64 bit) http://www.pgmusic.com/bonuspaks.htmForte DXi Demo Coyote’s ForteDXi is a DirectX (DXi) plug-in that implements a high-quality sample player. Its sampled instruments offer a sound quality far better than the standard MIDI synthesizer. Use this 30-Day demo for your MIDI Output, Dxi, or to Render your songs to WAV in just a few seconds!
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Well, that's what I do...save all the "Real Stuff" as MP3's, including styles, soloists, real drums, etc., and jam live with the many, many groovy material, as with a live-back-up-band. I'll do more of "it" when I get hold of 2010 and the new USB harddrive for $139. But I've also been a proponent (buyer and user) of Brad's Real Book On-Line, which is a compendium of the greatest hit jazz mp3's in existence...as far as I am concerned. As backing for a jazz singer and jazz guitarist, as I am (and I also have about $20K in keyboard synths and modules/studio components as well as Sonar)...I love nothing better than to jam along with pre-recorded masters of jazz and jazz ballads, artists and such!). I've always loved the special gratification of playing, as a single performer, in a jazz bistro environment... the addition of Real Band/Real Drums in specific styles is a Godsend, and in addition I love to listen (and jam with a meriad of jazz artists (via MP3 backing with the original hit recordings)...live...the sound of all of this is truly remarkable...there is no audible difference between real and MP3 recorded, with today's sound systems. If you've got a good soundcard...or better yet, external synth modules or keyboards that never fail as software, you can have your MP3 Cake...and, eat it too...sucessfully!! Of course you probably are already aware of the "vocalists" hardware and software that can remove a vocal or solo track you would rather eliminate. Whether you're into audio only or midi mostly, or a combination of both, BIAB will get you home fast!! http://www.thegigbaby.com
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With this release, BB2010, you no longer need a DXi in order to Render Realtracks to WAV.
Ah, interesting. Thanks.
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You should at least read the New Features lists...
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You should at least read the New Features lists...
Well, I did read it. Not word for word. And I certainly didn't memorize it. It is a long list. And I have been preoccupied with a couple of other things lately.
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