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Peter and PG development:
As reported by jcspro40, I also am getting flamming or double hits on kicks and snares on some slow- tempo Real Drums.
For example, I loaded the demo song for =ALTCTRY, changed the tempo to 80 and then loaded RealDrums CountryPopEV16^ from the new RealDrums #29, which is rated at 80-170 bpm.
At 80 bpm there is a definite problem and I think the reason is that BIAB is still playing the 110 bpm version of CountryPopEV16^ no matter what the tempo is. If I change the tempo to 170 and hit "play," BIAB is still playing the 110 bpm version of the RealDrum.
I have not tried other songs or other RealDrums, but this could be the reason that some people are reporting the flamming problem a slow tempos -- that for some RealDrums, BIAB is still using the higher bpm version of the file even when the temp is set considerably lower, but still within the range listed for that particular RealDrum.
Thanks for looking,
John
BIAB 2010, build 291, Windows XP, sp3, m-audio 2496 soundcard, ASIO drivers
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Hi John
In beta testing and since I had a few problems with both Realdrums and freezing
I resolved both by making sure that when making any changes to save the song each time before playing
Worth a try
jazzman
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jazzman,
Thanks for the suggestion. Saving the song didn't seem to make a difference.
For RD CountryPop EV16, Biab plays the 110 bpm version no matter where the song tempo is set.
John
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It may be due to your RealTracks settins for Halftime/Doubletime, see if that's set to true. The program could be attempting to automatically pick what it thinks is the best realtrack for the job.
There is also a setting in the RealTracks settings window that can be checked off to select the best tempo RT for the job, too.
Now that we have those two functions, which greatly expand which RealTracks can be used at a given Tempo, it may be necessary to vist those controls if you are wanting to force a specific pick and change Tempo.
--Mac
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Hi Mac:
I tried the song with CountryPopEV16 RealDrums, with and without the two settings you mentioned for Real Tracks.
It didn't seem to make a difference either way. Do those settings apply to both Real Tracks and Real Drums? With the song tempo set to 80 bpm, BIAB still plays the song using the drum file with a native bpm of 110. I think that is what is causing the flamming.
Since at least BIAB 2009, I think, if you change the tempo significantly, BIAB has played a different RealDrum file. It will usually play the same RealDrum style, but with a native bpm closer to the tempo the user has selected for the song.
I just tried this with several other Real Drums and BIAB was changing the file to a diffferent native bpm if I significantly changed the tempo....but not for Real Drum CountryPopEV16 -- part of Real Drums #29 --
Thanks,
John
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Ah. RealDRUMS. right.
Have you looked into that target RealDrums folder and ascertained that you do have a different Tempo realdrums for that specific one? Maybe there is nothing else to choose from or something.
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Hi Mac:
That is the problem. For CountryPopEV16, there is only one audio file and it has a native bpm of 110, even though it is rated at 80-170-- so no matter the tempo you choose, Biab plays the 110 bpm version.
John
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Hi John,
I have tried the CountryPopEV16 and it seems to change to the required tempo's ok here
Perhaps try re-installing the RealTracKs/Drums again as something could be slightly out of line/corrupted in the original install
jazzman
BIAB - RealBand - 2022
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