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I've only just bought BB 2010, but I'm finding that a 5 minute song is taking about 20 minutes to direct render to wav. Is this normal? I thought that direct rendering was supposed to be better than doing an audio recording, but at least that way a 5 minute song would only take 5 minutes to record.
I am using Win7 64-bit with the Forte 30 day trial installed.
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Hi,
No, that is not normal for a Direct Render at all. Matter of fact, it should be rather fast, certainly faster than it would take to record the song from beginning to end.
Something is wrong somewhere, perhaps a setting, perhaps a corrupted file maybe.
First thing to try is a reboot of the computer.
If that doesn't do the trick, then try, inside BiaB, under the Opts menu, "Return to Factory Settings" and hit button number two there.
Hope this helps you get it sorted,
--Mac
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Yes, I'm finding the same thing in 2010. I'm on XP Pro, a reasonably beefy desktop (2 gig memory), and not much other demand on the PC. It takes so long (haven't timed it, 12 minutes to do a 12 bar blues for 12 choruses), that I've assumed it crashed and then come back to it in 20 minutes and the song is rendered. I've CTL-Alt-Dlt'd and I see that BIAB is "non-responding", yet when I let it continue, it eventually finishes the job. Appreciate any ideas.
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Tryint to duplicate on this end and have some questions:
For those who are esperiencing this hangup with Direct Rendering,
*Are you using MME or ASIO sound drivers at the time?
*What DXi MIDI synth at the time? (VSC DXi, Forte DXi, or... )
*Do you use tha synth at all times, or do you use another synth and change to DXi to Direct Render? If so, what is the other synth, hardware, software, etc. please try to be as specific as you can.
Thanks,
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I'm using MME drivers (this must have been the default I guess, as I never chose it).
I'm using the Forte DXi (though all my songs so far have used Real Tracks and Real Drums).
I don't use any other synth, hardware or software.
Hope those answers help...
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I'm using XP SP3, M-Audio AP2496 soundcard, BiaB is set to MME sound drivers for this test.
HH2010, Build 292
I loaded several of the PGMusic RealTracks demo songs and Rendered them using both VSX DXi and then repeated the process using the Forte DXi.
In all cases, the Direct Rendering was accomplished in under 20 seconds, tops.
I did do a ctrl-alt-del while some of them were Rendering, and found that it does indeed report that BiaB is "not responding" while the render takes place, but as soon as the Rendering stops, it changes back to "running" status.
Can't duplicate here at the moment, but am thinking of trying some things like changing various settings one at a time to see if that has any impact.
Meanwhile, some things that may help at your end:
*Download and install the latest update.
*Do a Clean and Defrag of the hard drive.
*If you haven't done so already, by all means try the Opts -> Return to Factory Settings command. This one often restores BB to doing things that it either used to do or is supposed to do, I've come to expect having to use that command.
*Are you using any Realtime DX effects at the time you do the Rendering? Just a shot in the dark, but you should check to see that none are invoked as an experimental effort.
*Change things ONE AT A TIME and try it again. If the changed thing didn't help, change that back to whatever or wherever it was before changing something else or some other setting, to aboid compounding issues.
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Looks like I found the problem. I had my song file saved on a NAS and I was rendering the wav to the same folder on that NAS. When I moved the song to my C: and rendered the wav there also, it finished in about 20 seconds or so. I tried leaving the song on the NAS and rendering the wav to my C:, but that didn't work. Looks like I need to have both song and wav on the local hard drive. I have a gigabit setup (pc network card, router and NAS all gigabit) - I don't know why it would make 20 second vs 20 minute difference doing it all on the local drive. Thanks for your help Mac. 
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Network Attached Storage?
I don't think any of us even *thought* about beta testing for that one!
Besides, we had a few other more pressing bugs to squash this year...
"Doc, it hurts when I do this."
"Then, don't do that!"
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Glad you got it sorted.
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CapnStoobie: I'm still having that issue. I too am storing my BB on my NAS. When you got it to work, where was your BB/Drums and BB/RealTracks? I.e. did you move your song AND the libraries over to the C:, or just the song?... thanks...bill
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My BB (and all RealTracks/RealDrums) has always been on C:. I only stored the song files and wav's on the NAS originally. When I transferred the song files to C: then everything was C: - then rendering worked quickly. Bottom line is, all BB files need to be on C:. I guess I'll just use the NAS to store backups of the song files instead.
Hope that helps!
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re NAS. whats the specs of that ?? is this the type of stuff your useing ?? http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1651/top_10_network_attached_storage_devices.htmland the thruput link to NAS your useing ?? if its a slow comms link then that will impact.
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When you render songs, it will always render to the same folder as the song. So you definitely want that to be a fast drive. You can always move both the song and the rendered version back to the NAS later, but I would always render to the fastest hard drive.
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whats the specs of that ??
is this the type of stuff your useing ??
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1651/top_10_network_attached_storage_devices.html
and the thruput link to NAS your useing ??
if its a slow comms link then that will impact.
It's a D-Link DNS-323. I appreciate that it will be slower to access than C:, but not *that* slow - there is something else at play (and not necessarily BiaB's fault).
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