Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
With BIAB Win 2022 v912 on Windows 10
I am experiencing Unceremonious Exits. No message. Just Poof! Gone.
and I cannot find a log to provide more information.

Is there something that I can turn on to capture the issue before the Unceremonious Exit?

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 2,307
B
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
B
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 2,307
I am also win10, 2022 912
I haven't encountered the disappearance for the time being, but occasionally there are some dialog errors.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
2021-12-18_152203.jpg (42.77 KB, 284 downloads)
Last edited by swingbabymix; 12/23/21 10:18 PM.

WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII,Studio One,FL STUDIO
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,960
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,960
That WMP problem is totally unrelated and has been discussed in another thread. However, you might try the same remedy of Running BIAB As Administrator.

No diagnostic trick I know of in this case, but you might consider running MEMTEST on your RAM overnight, just to rule that out.

How much RAM do you have, and what else is running at the time? Does the unceremonious exit still occur if you reboot and then run only BIAB?

Does Windows ever crash, or just BIAB?

Did this just start?

Build 912 or earlier?

What were you doing at the time?

Did you change your audio driver, or did a recent Windows update make changes (it happens)?

Sorry - I ask all these annoying questions only to assist in diagnosing. You never know what will lead to the solution.

And “Poof, gone” is unfortunately a well-accepted Windows technical term, even if it is funny!!


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
OK here goes

> How much RAM do you have
64G
> Does the unceremonious exit still occur if you reboot and then run only BIAB?
I rebooted and ran only BIAB and it happened again.
> Does Windows ever crash, or just BIAB?
Just BIAB. My Win machine has been very stable.

> Did this just start?
Yes. Since BIAB 2022 and v908 but more with v912

Question
Can I use [bb2022_win_update_build908] to go back

> What were you doing at the time?
It seems repeatable. Load a SGU song(75 bars).
Open Recent Styles load one, play and listen
(on repeating this cycle 1,2,3 times >>> Poof, Gone!

> Did you change your audio driver, or
I did NOT knowingly.

> did a recent Windows update make changes (it happens)?
Unclear how to be certain, the update page is highlevel.
On the surface It does not seem to have touched an audio driver.

Question
? What can I use or Where can I look to see more detail?

> Sorry - I ask all these annoying questions only to assist in diagnosing. You never know what will lead to the solution.

No No, Thank you. I take it as helpful good diagnostics.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,266
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,266
Quote:
Question
Can I use [bb2022_win_update_build908] to go back

Yes. You can revert to an earlier version using that method.


BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
I went back to the USB Drive and ran BIAB from there
It is v905

Open song the SGU song(75 bars) ( that I created)
Load Set of Recent Styles (that I have curated and saved)

pick a style
and it plays fine

pick another style
and it plays fine

pick another style Poof, Gone!

I have experimented with the sequence of the styles, it does not change the outcome. I conclude that it is not caused by a single style.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
I went back to the USB Drive for 2021 and ran BIAB from there
It is v814

repeated all of the steps, 12x style & play cycles

No Poof, Gone

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,266
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,266
I wonder if you could just try several MIDI only styles vs. RealTracks only styles to see if/how it might be related to the audio setup on your system?


BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,960
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,960
Hmm. Thanks for the reply. Your answers are clear and I'm not getting any new ideas yet but I'll keep thinking.

It seems that it works OK in BIAB 2021. That's something.

I like VideoTrack's idea to refine the circumstances.

Even more, if you are willing, write down the exact steps and the exact styles you are using, so we can test it as well.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
Here is some more info and attached files I have created to describe my experience with the Unceremonious Exits. Just Poof! Gone.
1. I wonder if anyone else can reproduce this
2. I would like to find a way to log the BIAB program operation up to the exit.

I wrote (BIAB Poof Gone Steps.txt) to capture the steps that I take for each gone! I can repeat this over and over in BIAB2022(908 or 912). Sometimes it takes a couple style selections, sometimes 3+ style selections.

I have written previous that on the USB drive 2021(814) with a dozen style selections and no termination problems.

Rename the .m4a to a .zip file
it contains 6 files ( the Steps.txt file, the song file, the style set file and some diagnostic info)

thanks Roy

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Man of the World Poof and Gone.m4a (24.47 KB, 3 downloads)
BIAB Poof Gone Steps.txt (2.39 KB, 2 downloads)
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 23
C
cqd Offline
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
C
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 23
I'm having the same issues in pro tools using the aax plugin..after one or two generations the whole thing crashes..seems to work OK standalone..
I haven't went to 912 yet..

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,775
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,775
How to activate boot up log.

Ctrl+E opens Preference Settings

Enable log.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)

Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
Right Jim, I just did that
I get 99 row detailed list of the Boot up steps,
ending in BOOTUP LOG COMPLETE.

but that provides no insight to the UCE (UnCeremonious Exit)

acronyms are free this week at BestBoy

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,775
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,775
RoyReddy,

Does the log say anything about loading plugins?


Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
I appreciate the diagnostic assistance.
Yes there are plenty of rows about plugins, no error statements to my read.
I will attach the log here, in case you see something of interest.

also
-- FlashMessageLog.txt
Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Bootup time in milliseconds =6,873 [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Time to scan unknown VST plugins = 4517 ms [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Time to scan known VST plugins = 8 ms [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Time to scan AU plugins = 0 ms [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Time to scan ALL plugins = 4525 ms [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
This function was sloww: 4,484ms. the function was :adding VST plugin: C:\Program Files\vstPlugins\AmpliTube 3.dll [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Error: Could not connect to plugin (C:\Program Files\vstPlugins\AmpliTube 3.dll). Reason is unknown. It is possible that this is not a VST 2 plugin, or it is not installed properly. [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:15 PM]
Time to Count Plugins in ms =230. Plugins counted=42 [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:10 PM]
Scanning for plugins... [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:10 PM]
This function was sloww: 739ms. the function was :TBandWindowFormCreate 5.21 [2022.912.0, 2021-12-20 9:08:09 PM]
**** New Session started at : 2021-12-20 9:08:09 PM

there has been a system complaint about Amplitube since Nov 21, not new to 2022(912)
BIAB 2021 from the USB drive doesnt care about the Amplitube plugin

thnx RrR

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
BootupLog.txt (14.24 KB, 0 downloads)
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 23
C
cqd Offline
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
C
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 23
I installed the 912 version yesterday and I'm getting the standalone BIAB just quitting unceremoniously now too..
I'm hoping it's just that it's early days of the new version..

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,369
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,369
This should be fixed in build 914. This build is still in pre-release testing, however if you would like you can download it from:
https://dl11.pgmusic.com/support/patch/bb2022_win_update_build914.exe

You can always install the previous patch if you run into any new problem.


Andrew
PG Music Inc.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
R
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
R
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 110
Very Nice!
so far in my 15minutes of exercising my repeat steps

I have NO Issues

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 23
C
cqd Offline
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
C
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 23
That new version is still bombing out in pro tools for me anyway..

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1
F
Newbie
Offline
Newbie
F
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1
Choosing RealDrums continued to throw an error (sometimes crashing) for me even on build 914. PG support suggested that others who have had the problem reverted to build 905 and that worked for me. I hope they are able to fix this soon, as I don't want to be stuck on an older build and not be able to update.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Update to RealBand® 2025 Build 5 Windows Today!

Already using RealBand® 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 5 now from our Support Page to ensure you have the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Get the latest update today!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 is here! This new version introduces many features, including VST3 support, the ability to load or import a .FLAC file, a reset option for track height in the Tracks window, a taller Timeline on the Notation window toolbar, new freeze buttons in the Tracks window, three toolbar modes (two rows, single row, and none), the improved Select Patch dialog with text-based search and numeric patch display, a new button in the DirectX/VST window to copy an effects group, and more!

First-time packages start at only $49. Already a PowerTracks Pro Audio user? Upgrade for as little as $29!

www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®

Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.

Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.

Check out the forum post for more information.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,145
Posts775,330
Members39,569
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Andill, AIDV, RickyLane, AudioQuestions, jl1
39,568 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 193
DC Ron 101
rsdean 95
WaoBand 87
Noel96 75
dcuny 67
BYOBand 65
Today's Birthdays
Jan van der Linde
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5