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Windows XP, Build 294 ...
OPTIONS -> PREFERENCES -> DISPLAY ... the option box "New Line for Every Section (Part Maker)" is checked. The main display looks as expected until I identify a repeat. Then the main display behaves as though the box is not checked. This occurs whether I insert the repeat manually or whether BiaB finds it automatically, for example in a standard AABA song form. There are no Part Makers inside the repeated material. The display behavior covers the entire song, not just the portion that has a repeat.
If I use the "Edit Repeats and Endings" dialog to delete all repeats, the display once again starts a new line at every Part Maker.
Is this behavior a bug or is it explained somewhere?
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-Mel
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My personal preference actually is to NOT have a new line for each part marker. So, I have it unchecked. In addition to that (as it helps me put more variations other than the standard repetitions of Part A and B (verse/chorus), I unfold all of my projects to make them into one big chorus. I find that I have much more control over what I want the backing track to sound like.
But, that's just me.
Mike
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The display has always gotten 'sloppy' when using repeats or 1st/2nd endings. Once they are in, the lines 'disappear'. I only use those when making lead sheets. For performance or practice, I have an unfolded copy with no repeats or endings so the sections are easier to see.
Sorry. I hope someone else knows a way around.
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As per my previous post in this thread, Rachael ... seem like, we're working very similar with BIAB.
Mike
Last edited by MikeK; 01/26/10 04:32 PM.
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Yes, the feature to create a new line for new sections (part markers) is, by design, only active when there are no repeats/1st-2nd endings in the song. So when you add them, you won't see a new line for each part marker.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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Like Rachael and Mike, I also use a single, unfolded chorus. I find the line breaks are handy visual markers and well-suited to a single chorus.
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I use the chorus feature quite a lot.
I also find that the New Line with every Part Marker feature is desirable sometimes when laying out a new song, so I may toggle it ON for that purpose.
But once the song is laid out and I'm done with that part, I usually turn that New Line with Part Marker feature back OFF and save the song that way. It is too cluttered for fast reading when playing along with BB IMO.
Those who use the One Long Song feature all the time will have to manually add part markers to get the B section where they need it. Using the chorus feature I automatically get the Swing feel for the inside choruses, which is what I want most of the time for jazz soloing anyway. Some songs, I invoke the B substyle for both the Melody Head and Tail as well as the middle solo choruses. Works well for certain Bebop and Modern Jazz tunes.
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Having this division line is fine when working with a single chorus. I like to be able to section of feach version, chorus, bridge, inst while roughing out the arrangement. I only wish it was possible to program drum fills using a and b markers and NOT have a section line created at the fill point. Keep the current section lines but mark the fills in another way that they won't generate section lines. More comments back on Jan 8 thread.  Ian
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Thanks, Peter. The angst is gone. I don't actually print lead sheets using the section-break feature, but I sometimes find it useful for building or understanding structure.
-Mel
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Unless it has changed in 2010, you might be forced to use repeats/tags rather than unfold due to the 255 bar limit. Doesn't happen often, but I have a couple of songs that exceed it if unfolded. I like the drum fill being separate from the new line part markers idea. Would be helpful for me.
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