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Hi, all: I hope everyone is doing well heading into the Holiday Season. I’ve been a bit MIA from the board, and equally non-productive on the music making front . . . but am hoping to catch up on some listens before and during the holidays. Everything I’ve heard today, to no surprise, was just excellent. What a wonderful collection of talented folks we have making music here! Here’s the only thing new I’ve penned in the last couple of months—nothing ground-breaking, but hopefully it gets me going in a better direction. Suggestions on the production are welcome as always! Hope you enjoy the listen. My best to you all— Deej Here’s the song:BRING IT BACK HOME NOTE: I've decided to go with the revised version of the song and have removed the link to the original version, which included the BGV call backs in the second chorus. I agree with the comments below that the second version works better. Thanks all folks for pointing me in the right direction. Here are the lyrics:Snow in starlight December moon Voices singing Silent Night Outside my lonely room And I find myself remembering A sweeter spring and everything that’s you And I’m wishing more than anything You’re wishing for me, too Bring it back home Your love to me I’m so alone You’re all I need Bring it back home Into my arms And let the light of love I’ve been dreaming of Fill me up and Heal my broken heart And I watch the carolers amble Down the drive and towards the hill Past the Christmas candle I keep burning on the window sill And I hope it serves as a guiding light To lead you back, keep me in sight, and still Well, I know it’s not for anything But I’m hoping that it will And here’s the band:RealTracks 1036: Bass, Electric, NorthernRockBallad RealTracks 1690: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopPromise RealTracks 1037: Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm NorthernRockBallad RealTracks 1038: Guitar, High-Strung Acoustic, Rhythm NorthernRockBallad RealTracks 1596: Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Pop16ths Ev16 065 RealTracks 3198: Guitar, Acoustic, Soloist PopBalladBrent Ev 065 RealDrums: PopRock8ths^02
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Bittersweet lyrics. Your vocals brings out the emotional experience of each word.
Melody is so satisfying. this song is better than you think.
My only suggestion, which is just a matter of personal preference, is that you don't need the answer-back vocals. Two things: You've got the chops to pull of the vocal build (which you did). They take away from your lonesome vocal. I'm curious to how it would sound without the BG vocals.
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DJ, I find this simply excellent! Lyrics, vocals, melody it's all top shelf.
Just 2 personal taste nits that in my mind would knock this out of the park.
1. A Female vocal in the mix on the last 2 choruses to increase the group effect
2. A short guitar or keyboard solo. The melody is so good that my ears were hoping for a solo
A VERY enjoyable listen man, great job.
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Bitter sweet one Deej,
Personally I'd be inclined to cut some of the click in the kick and cut a notch at 70 as well as 120Hz in the bass to allow some of the kick's suv through.
I get the added vocal parts - they reflect carolers part singing xmas songs.
Maybe enhance that melodic guitar part in the long intro.
Lovely stuff.
Cheers
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Gorgeous ballad!
Once you hear that compelling voice, you have no choice but to listen.
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DJ,Your signature vocal sound just draws you in. Very well sung. Way to deliver the message. Well written and I really liked the way thee bass wasn't always on the root. It gave a lot of flavor to the sentiment. Excellent listen, Tom
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Really nice tune sung passionately. It deserved a real choir in it but I'm sure that wasn't in the budget. Happy holidays to you, Deej!
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Hi, folks:
Thanks for the comments so far . . . good stuff here and incredibly helpful. I'll circle back with more in depth comments on the feedback from all, but two things that immediately struck me based on Ezekiel's and Bass Thumper's feedback:
I suspected that the final two choruses were too busy. So, Ezekiel, I totally get your comment. And based on it I've done an alternative version, which I'm not going to post just yet, that removes the call back chorus in the second chorus.
Bass Thumper: The role of the acoustic solo guitar grew as I worked on the song. Originally, it wasn't in the intro (or even in the song at all), but given the length of the intro, I decided to add it to provide some listener engagement . . . and liked it enough that it became more prominent in each version I worked on. So I get your desire for a solo, but the length of the song (at 4:30 plus as it stands) just doesn't afford it. BUT, in the new version, I married your comment to Ezekiel's, and dialed up the acoustic solo to essentially replace the call back chorus in the second chorus.
I think it's a better version . . . cleaner and less busy, while retaining the harmonies and complimentary melodies I heard in my head. HOWEVER, I'm going to wait to post the revised version until I get a few more comments, just to see how others react, and because I'd love to hear their reaction to the revised version in contrast.
Thanks much for the helpful feedback!
Deej
EDIT: Screw it . . . posted the alternative version separately for contrast. Have at it folks!
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Deej:
A very pleasant surprise in how the song started ... "straight off the bat", as it were, with those inverted, off-root chords. It got my attention straightaway, letting me know that a story was ready to be told.
Your voice comes in. Yes, it tells a story. The lyrics are stunning. But there's another quality to it, too ... the storytelling, the lower register (you're often up in the rafters, so it was wonderful to hear you an octave lower, also :-) ) ... and something else I can't quite pinpoint and/or express in words ... but it keeps one's attention all the time, it certainly kept mine.
I like the harmonies, too - nothing wrong with them at all. They add warmth to the song.
You go up an octave, towards the end. Because you kept us waiting for that for longer than usual, it really works, as does the return to a lower register, which is like a whisper, at that point.
HOWEVER: this song is much more than the sum of its parts. It's got that magic that cannot be canned, otherwise we'd all be rich. You say it's "nothing groundbreaking" - I disagree. It's somewhat of a new sound for you, I find - whilst retaining that trademark Deej quality - and it feels like you've gone up a notch with everything. It's so hard to pinpoint what it actually is ... argh ... but it's a top, top notch song that makes me want to singalong with it, and also to listen repeatedly to it. It's so melodic, too ... like I said, much more than the sum of its parts.
The sentiment of the song, the meaning of the lyrics, etc., is so moving, also. After listening a few times, to critique the song from a "technical" standpoint, I've allowed myself to just listen, now. I'm on my fourth listen, and it doesn't get old :-) . I don't think people mention just how good a lyricist you are - it kinda gets lost in between the praise for your musical writing and the praise for your voice, both of which are of course well deserved. But, the lyrics, too ... wow. I'm not even going to quote out of them ... they are ALL stunning.
So much more to say, no idea how to articulate and pinpoint that which I want to say. HOWEVER: a beautiful, beautiful song, deceptively (I suspect) effortless, and a wonderful sentiment to carry in one's heart at Christmas time, when many are so lonely inside and get warmed up in their hearts by such a song as this one. Bravo, Merry Christmas to you and the Happiest of New Years, which I really hope will have you happy with what you write and will have us blessed with even more of your songs.
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Good to see you with a new one, Deej, it's been a while!
Great to hear that signature vocal again, love the passion in your voice.
I listened to your second mix, sounds good to me.
Enjoyed!
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I listened to both versions and I like the second one better, it's a nice song with a good melody and good vocals.
I would probably try to do the best of both worlds, i.e. I would choose the second version and use the counter vocals only at 3:21, not at 3:08.
In general, I think female BG vocals would work better, but it's already fine with your voice.
The mix itself is good, I would just turn down the treble on the guitar strumming at the beginning of the song.
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What a lovely song, Deej. One of your best if not the best.
If I can add to what Rayc suggests, I would like to fatten out the snare where it comes in at around 1:30.
Good one though.
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Yeah, that signature voice. As many have said, that's the real hook. I'm listening to the first one first. I really like the creative interplay of voices emphasizing the impact of the lyrics.
Man, this second version is better right from the intro. I like that acoustic intro. The mix even seems better, but that may be my enthusiasm for you willingness to listen to Scott and Steve. I definitely agree with Scott about this song being so much better that you seem to think. I also agree that reducing the BGVs lends itself better to the loneliness implied in the lyrics.
This is a song that can be recorded by so many in so many ways and it will always be a great song. Well done, Deej!!
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Hi DeeJ
Great X-Mas song
Has a nice mood
Very soulful and thoughtful sung
Also your band is well chosen
Well done my friend
Wish you Merry Christmas and a healthy Happy New Year
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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You've got another hit on your hands Deej! I liked the first version very much, and thought I'd disagree with everyone on the second version, but after listening I do agree that the second is better. Only you could pull that off and make a better version of something you've done. You've got the entire picture with this one = the emotion, the writing, the vocal, the production = all are just fantastic.
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Deej,
No one sings heartbreak like you; bgv`s or not, when you really bring the song home this is goosebumps good.
I think version 2 is better; but its close.
Please keep posting whenever you can put this much feeling into your songs!
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DJ.
DJ.
DJ.
This
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Wow.
Just wow.
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Deej...really a song that captures the sadness and loneliness that many people feel this time of year...man, you really know how to deliver a ballad...your vocals are always full of emotion which brings a believability and honesty to your songs...I like the band you put together and the acoustic work done in the song...because of the pauses between the lines in the verses, I get the feeling when I listen as though your sitting at a desk writing and contemplating each line before it's written...that's really cool!...the chorus melody is so appealing and singable...my only nit would be the repeats on the last chorus...IMO (for what it's worth) I would cut it down to one echoed repeat with enough reverb to place it back in the mix and make it seem like an after thought of the melody line (?)...but Deej...it's good!!
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Ezekiel, Bass Thumper, rayc, Rob, tommyad, TuneMonger, James, Dave, B.D., Vic, Marty, Andi, Brad, Robert, David S., and firesong:
Thank you all a ton for the listens and great feedback. As noted above, I’ve decided to go with the second version—it’s cleaner and I like the lead acoustic guitar serving the same role in essence that the BGV call backs did in the second verse. I still may make some additional changes to this version based on some of the additional comments above—a few thoughts on those:
The Drums (rayc snd Vic): Those drums . . . I think you are both likely right, but I’m not sure I know exactly how to achieve those ends. I did mess around with it a bit, but I think was making it worse, so I stopped. Drums have always been my downfall; I’m usually happy now if I can come close to making them sound like they belong in the song, LOL. I will take another stab at it at some point. I’ll also experiment a bit more with the bass, per your suggestion ray—haven’t quite tried that yet.
The BGVs (Bass Thumper, B.D. TuneMonger and Firesong): Totally agree a female BGV would add another, better element to the song. Unfortunately, not much I can do about that as I’m my only vocal resource. And, yes, TuneMonger, a choir for this would have been awesome, but a similar limitation.
firesong—good suggestion on perhaps making that third chorus a little cleaner as well. I still think there may be an opportunity to do so. Your suggestion might be a way to go. Thanks.
My best to you all—and Happy Holidays all!
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Deej, I’m no expert but you could try pushing up the EQ db somewhere around the 120 hz mark to fatten up the snare. Or take it down in the mids somewhere.
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Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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