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On one of my computers, I'm running BIAB on an old XP system with only one Gig of RAM. BIAB works OK, with occasional glitches.

I'm planning to replace the system eventually, but I'm wondering if more RAM would speed up BIAB considerably and if it would be worth spending a hundred bucks or so on another gig of RAM at this point.

Thanks in advance for feedback...

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If you shop around you should be able to either get another gig stick or a 2 gig stick to add on or replace the one you have for around $50

2 gig is well worth it.


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My observations with BIAB is that it's not the RAM that's at issue but the processor.Once the processor locks at 100% you're done for.I know there's a sort of relation ship between Ram/processor and speed but the generation or RTs has always been limited by the processor pegging out at 100% while the RAM use is very low.


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My observations with BIAB is that it's not the RAM that's at issue but the processor.Once the processor locks at 100% you're done for.I know there's a sort of relation ship between Ram/processor and speed but the generation or RTs has always been limited by the processor pegging out at 100% while the RAM use is very low.




From the perspective of "bang for the buck", if you're looking at paying $100 to add a gig of ram to an old system or spending a bit more for a new low-end dual core with lots of ram, there's no question about it.
Even a cheap entry level computer from Wal Mart is likely to exceed both the RAM and processing power of an updated older system for a cost that's not much more than the RAM upgrade.

Plus, once you have an extra PC you can use your old one to display manuals or surf the PGMusic forum at the same time as you're running Real Band on the other

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About two years ago, I spent about $250 and just upgraded my motherboard, processor, and RAM. It was like getting a new turbocharged PC. Kept the hard drives, sound card, video card, case, monitor, etc.

Lots of options to get your computer running faster and better.


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I bought this Lenovo I'm using for $399.00 ship included and it's been beyond awesome. I have not had one issue with Win7x64 with anything I use.Period. And it's as fast as lightning. Two secs to load a full RT BIAB tune!
The only bloatware To remove was:
1. ooVoo
2. McAfee
The rest is all needed in my opinion.
Getting this one on the network was a breeze as well. I now have three computers wireless adhoc networked.
1. Linux
2. XP
3. Win7x64

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On one of my computers, I'm running BIAB on an old XP system with only one Gig of RAM. BIAB works OK, with occasional glitches.

I'm planning to replace the system eventually, but I'm wondering if more RAM would speed up BIAB considerably and if it would be worth spending a hundred bucks or so on another gig of RAM at this point.

Thanks in advance for feedback...




Without knowing more about your puter, like the CPU type and speed, as well as the mobo, it is not really possible to tell you if it is worth it or not.

You can always use more RAM, but whether or not the machine would work better with RealTracks would be a matter of installing the ram to see what happens. Since you are already running 1 gig, I wouldn't expect fantastic amount of improvement. Well, some. But if, for instance, your CPU is one of the "lesser" chips, it may well be your bottleneck.

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I'm always amazed at how many folks ran WinXP on 1GB of RAM. The stuff has been so cheap for several years, it just doesn't make sense. I've been doing IT for about 14 years, and aside from upgrading the Processor (which means another motherboard), Adding RAM is the biggest boost you're going to get. Also, if the computer uses DDR memory, then you need to add the RAM sticks in pairs to get the performance out of them.

Most motherboards have 4 slots. As an example, the link below is for an older DDR set of two 1GB sticks for $69 bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231047

Remember that XP can only address about 3.5GB total so 4GB is the practical limit in installed memory.

One other thing to consider: If your C: drive is more than half full on XP, then each and every thing you add to it will slow the computer down more. It's a flaw in the operating system.

Just my $.02,

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If you plan to spend $50-100 on RAM, why not just go another $100 and get a new processor and motherboard. Newegg has Athelon X2 / Gigabyte MB / RAM combos for $150-200 ... just use your existing box and peripherals and swap the old stuff out

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If you plan to spend $50-100 on RAM, why not just go another $100 and get a new processor and motherboard. Newegg has Athelon X2 / Gigabyte MB / RAM combos for $150-200 ... just use your existing box and peripherals and swap the old stuff out



It's not necessarilly that easy. There are many factors.Some of which:
1. Will the MOBO fit in the case. There are a lot on non standard form factor cases out there.
2. Type of drives PATA or SATA
3. Video Card?
4.Do you have the discs with the OS?
5. Very Important. Power Supply and cable config for new devices.
6. do you need PCI slots. rare these days.
Just a few things to consider.


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I'm running a Pentium 4 2.8 Mhz.

Can't see investing much in this 8-year-old system except maybe a stick of RAM.

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I bought this Lenovo I'm using for $399.00 ship included and it's been beyond awesome. I have not had one issue with Win7x64 with anything I use.Period. And it's as fast as lightning. Two secs to load a full RT BIAB tune!
The only bloatware To remove was:
1. ooVoo
2. McAfee
The rest is all needed in my opinion.
Getting this one on the network was a breeze as well. I now have three computers wireless adhoc networked.
1. Linux
2. XP
3. Win7x64




That's the point. My wife's $400 Compaq laptop is 10X faster than this 7-year old system. Trying to upgrade at this point is a waste - except maybe a sick of RAM if it would give it a bit more life...

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