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Thank you, Andrew, but so far I have not been able to get SampleTank to work by putting different samples in the different channels either. They load, and I can press the virtual keyboard but there's no audio output at all. As for the PlugSound plugin, I will continue to play with it as time allows. For right now, the Coyote plugin is working properly but I see that as an interim solution as I don't want to buy still more plugins.

Hi,
I think the problem may be with some of the softsynths , not BIAB.
They may be multi timbral, but they don't respond to realtime bank & program changes or they take too long to load.

I tried for a couple of years to find a softsynth that would work with my One Man Band realtime arranger software ( basically a software arranger keyboard that loads Yamaha PSR style files) I ended up using soundfonts, the sounds changed in realtime. Since discovered Coyote WT ( included in BIAB 2011) & I bought Forte DXI & TTS1, they technically would also work.

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Well, the Coyote demo seems to work; assigned parts play correctly in BIAB. I was hoping that my existing plugins would work; it's a financial death of a thousand cuts, this stuff. I guess I have 30 days of grace so I should be glad, though.

Thanks for all the replies. It appears that BIAB will only coexist with certain soft synths.

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If you will notice on the Ultrasound web site that the PC system requirements states that it will run on XP. It does not say that it will run on Win. 7. You may want to contact them and inquire if it will run in Windows 7. That may be your problem.

I hope this helps.

Well, it works fine under Windows 7 using Reaper.

Trying Soundfonts now...and once again, while Soundfonts work fine in Reaper, once I try to load a voice in the sfz+ player plugin I get this error message: "There's no [sic] enough memory to load the selected Soundfont." (BTW, I have 6 gigs of RAM, although if BIAB is 32 bit it can't access it all. Still, I have enough.)

Edit: Turns out you have to set the sfz player to sr32 mode to get rid of that message. However, once I do that and load a bank of voices I get told by BIAB that I can't use the MIDI driver because it is in use by another program although nothing else is running. And the Coyote plugin works fine.

How do the rest of you get these to work?

That error message is known and there are some things in the BB FAQ that should help you:

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76. I get a message that a MIDI driver is "...installed properly but currently in use by another program", even though there are no other programs open.

This error will often refer to "Roland VSC", "GS Wavetable", or "No MIDI/Sound Output". First, you will want to find out if you are using ASIO or MME drivers (Opt. | MIDI/Audio Driver Setup | [Audio Settings] - Audio Driver Type)

If you are using MME drivers and the error is referring to a driver other than the 'Roland VSC', see this FAQ topic instead. (FAQ #111)

If you are using ASIO drivers, you may get this error if there is a conflict between the ASIO driver and a (non-DXi/VSTi) software synth selected in your driver setup. This happens on some computers when using the ASIO4ALL driver. To resolve the problem, make sure that the GS Wavetable and other software synths aren't selected anywhere in your setup. In other words, select a driver other than a software synth in the Band-in-a-Box MIDI Driver Setup dialog (output driver), and in the Windows control panel | Sounds and Audio Devices | Audio (MIDI Playback). Usually if you are using an ASIO driver in Band-in-a-Box, you will also be using a DXi/VSTi synth. Leave the "Use DXi Synth" box checked. You just need to select a different output driver, it won't affect the sound through your DXi synth. Ideally, select a driver for a hardware synth on your sound card or the MIDI OUT port on a MIDI interface.

If you are using MME drivers and the error is referring to the Roland VSC (the older stand-alone MIDI synth), see this FAQ topic instead.

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111. Why are there multiple instances of a single driver showing in my MIDI Driver Setup window?

Other symptoms: You might also get a message saying that a driver is "...installed properly but currently in use by another program".

Band-in-a-Box is having trouble making the proper connection to one or more MIDI devices that are installed on your computer.

If you have a MIDI interface installed and connected to an external synth, make sure the interface is connected to your computer and the synth turned on before you start Band-in-a-Box.

One of the Band-in-a-Box settings files may have become corrupt. Close Band-in-a-Box and delete the file "intrface.bbw" from your bb folder. Note that this will return many program settings to their factory defaults and Band-in-a-Box will create a new intrface.bbw file the next time you run it. You may wish to make a backup of this file before deleting it so you can restore your previous settings if this suggestion fails to resolve the problem.

If the previous suggestions didn't help, there is most likely a problem with the way one of your MIDI devices is installed. Try reinstalling the drivers for your sound card and MIDI interface, and uninstall any old MIDI devices that you aren't using.

One of the most frequent causes of this problem that we encounter is an improperly uninstalled Yamaha USB interface. Sometimes the uninstaller fails to remove a registry entry, which confuses Band-in-a-Box. To correct this problem you need to use the registry editor. The procedure isn't difficult, but since incorrect registry modifications can cause serious problems with your computer, you have to do this at your own risk.

Go to Start | Run, type "regedit" (without the quotes), and press OK. In the Registry Editor, navigate to the following location:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\ Microsoft\ WindowsNT\ CurrentVersion\ Drivers32.

When you click on the Drivers32 folder you should see midi, midi1, midi2... entries on the right side of the registry editor window. Look for and delete entries that may refer to an interface that is no longer installed on your computer. If you had a Yamaha interface, you might see an entry similar to "xgusb.cpl". Deleting this should resolve the problem after a reboot.

112. Error message when trying to record audio: "Format unsupported. Your sound card is not allowing or set for 44K audio".

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Hello Ben,

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Thank you, Andrew, but so far I have not been able to get SampleTank to work by putting different samples in the different channels either. They load, and I can press the virtual keyboard but there's no audio output at all.

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Don't assume it's not working just because you don't hear anything when you press keys on the virtual keyboard... that feature might not work unless you're using ASIO drivers, with "ASIO Always On" turned on.

To choose an instrument, you would ignore the patches selected on the main Band-in-a-Box screen, and open the SampleTank control panel.

First click a Part/Channel in the left side of the window, then find and double-click on the instrument that you want to load into that part in the browser window (right-hand side).

(You may want to first write down all the channels that Band-in-a-Box uses for the different tracks, found in Opt. | Preferences | Channels).

You would have to do this for each song you load that has different patches. I believe that you can save your loaded instruments as various presets so you don't have to do as much work each time.

You might consider using the Coyote WaveTable synth while auditioning songs/styles to begin with, then select your instruments in SampleTank when you're finalizing the song.

At least, that's the say SampleTank worked when I tested it in the past...