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Hi everyone, In one of my songs that I made, there is a crash symbol that is to loud. I want to reduce the volume only on that symbol. Iv'e tried Gold Wave, Audacity and Realband without any luck. This is a real drum track. Does anyone know how to do this?
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That may be tricky to isolate the crash enough to adjust the volume only on that segment. It may or may not affect something else on the drum track, depending on how complex it is.
If you can isolate it well enough, you might try to magnify that section and highlight the wave form where the cymbal crashes then do a slight gain change. You might want to try smaller decible changes one at a time until you have something that you are happy with.
If the track is too complex, it will affect more than just the crash.
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If it is one crash, like at the beginning (many seem to do that... ) you can highlight the waveform view of just the crash itself, then use the destructive PGMusic plugin, found under the Edit menu (NOT the DX realtime plugins), GainChange plugin, lower the volume of the thing by any negative number of dB desired.
You can do the same in Audacity using the "Amplify" plugin, but instead of turning the slider to the right to amplify the highlighted region, slide it to the left to "de-amplify". If the first pass is not enough, do it once again. In that fashion, you can eliminate it entirely if desired, provided that that only thing heard there is the crash and no other instruments, which is usually the case.
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Do the Cymbals have a Symbol?
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Try Melodyne. It enables you to isolate that one sound and minimise it. I guarantee it will do what you need
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A precise eq could do it as well. One with adjustable Q. [bandwidth]
Solo the drums and rank the levels a bit and adjust the Q to a very sharp peak or to be very small if you don't have graphic effects. Then sweep the freqs in the area of 8 to 10 k. When they get ugly that's the freq to cut. With a good sequencer you can automate this cut so it only hits the crashes and leaves the rest alone. Bring it down gradually till you find a good compromise. Without mastering gear and Al Schmidt's skill, most things of this nature are not perfect. But you will probably be the only one to notice the change if you do it right.
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Ron is spot on, you can indeed do a little bit of massaging using EQ.
A better way might be to use a MultiBand Compressor, depending on your desired result.
This will not be the same as having the separate tracks, don't even go there, but it can really change things, sometimes for the better. Things like mo' kick are rather easy to implement if you know the plugin and its controls.
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Hi Mac, both approaches require some care in tweaking the perameters since you can have some spill over into other instrument territory. Waves has a pretty good multi band compressor, the one comes stock in Digital Performer is nice too.
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Hi Mac, both approaches require some care in tweaking the perameters since you can have some spill over into other instrument territory.
Spillover would happen if you were working with a mixed down stereo track or something like that.
I would want to massage those drums in the sequencing software off of just the drum track using a good multiband comp plugin. Shouldn't be much spillover at that point, depending on the drumming content, of course. I'd hate to try it with a tom-tom/kick type of drum solo. "Sing Sing Sing" or "Innagaddadavida" type thang, it may be hard to find where the floor toms leave off and the kick picks up. But a "standard" rock ooongkumtah beat? Heightening the kick or the snare or both should be a cinch. There is only so far one can take this, though.
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Hi everyone, In one of my songs that I made, there is a crash symbol that is to loud. I want to reduce the volume only on that symbol. Iv'e tried Gold Wave, Audacity and Realband without any luck. This is a real drum track. Does anyone know how to do this?
Thanks
When I run into a situation like that, I simply cut the offending bar out of the track,
put it on a second track, delete everything except the crash, and turn its volume down.
Then I find a similar bar without the crash and copy it where the crash bar was.
Now I can control the level of the crash separately from the full drum track.
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