|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Foro para el usuario de Band-in-a-Box en Español
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 72
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 72 |
Hola un saludo para todos. He conversado con algunos amigos que ya tienen el Band in a Box 2009 y todos tienen muy buenos comentarios...y se ve increible!! Sin embargo, hay algo que me ha sorprendido, parece que el problema de grabacion de audio y midi simultaneo fué dejado de lado y no se solucionó aún siendo esta una version de upgrade mayor. Me sorprende mucho y esto deja solo dos probabilidades: una es que el problema o "bug" ha sido de muy dificil solución para los expertos programdores de PGMusic, lo cual es poco posible en vista de los grandes adelantos y caracteristicas muchisimo mas complejas que han sido incorporados en las ultimas versiones de BiaB. Y la otra posibilidad, mucho mas remota, sería que PGMusic no le ha dado importancia a solucionar este problema por el que aparentemente muy pocos usuarios han manifestado interés. Excepto muy pocos y por supuesto yo mismo, hemos hablado aqui en los foros del problema. Podria ser tambien un reflejo del "LOOK MA..NO MIDI" restandole importancia al MIDI y dandole prioridad a Real Track y Real Drums. Espero de verdad que no sea el caso, la incorporacion de Real Tracks y RD son un enorme avance!! pero el uso del MIDI sigue siendo muy importante y de hecho la version básica de Band in a Box sin real drums o real tracks SOLO puede trabajar por medio del MIDI. Yo quiero exponer aqui el PORQUE para mi es importante esta característica y quizá de esta forma algunos descubran su utilidad. Puede que muchos o la mayoria de los usuarios no necesiten grabar audio y midi al mismo tiempo, pero estoy muy seguro que hay quien lo necesita, caso contrario los mismos diseñadores de Band in a Box NO lo hubiesen incluido como caracteristica en el menu, creo que desde la version 2004 o 2005. Aqui estan algunas razones y ventajas: Para tecladistas y cantantes 1- Grabar la voz en el track de audio con un microfono mientras se toca y se graba el acompañamiento con un teclado MIDI. Para guitarristas MIDI y cantantes - Grabar la voz en el track de audio con un microfono mientras se toca y se graba el acompañamiento con una guitarra MIDI. Para guitarristas que quieran transcribir automaticamente sus partituras de canciones y solos - Grabar la guitarra normal en el track de audio con un microfono o por linea mientras se graba al mismo tiempo la señal MIDI de la misma guitarra (tiene que ser una guitarra o bajo con salida synth o MIDI). AL tener la señal MIDI de la guitarra grabada esta data nos va a aparecer logicamente en la ventana de partitura y notacion del Band in a Box, permitiendonos tener automaticamente la partitura de la parte de guitarra y a su vez el audio real. IDEAL y SUPER util para escribir ejercicios, escalas, lecciones, canciones, de TODO con la partitura incluida y el autentico sonido de la guitarra, ya que si grabaramos el MIDI solamente, lo cual SI ES posible, y en caso de solos complejos o improvisaciones seria muy dificil VOLVER a grabar exactamente lo mismo al menos que inviertieramos HORAS o dias aprendiendonos lo que grabamos nosotros mismos. En ninguno de los casos anteriores ambas cosas, audio y midi en este momento NO se pueden grabar al mismo tiempo a pesar de que el programa lo establece como posible en el menu de la ventana de grabacion de AUDIO. Solo el audio queda grabado, el MIDI queda ignorado por completo a pesar de estar marcada la opción en dicha ventana. No quiero quedar como un usuario impaciente, muy lejos de eso! pero recuerdo muy bien que el mismo Peter Ganón respondió en el foro de habla inglesa y se anunció que se solucionaría el BUG en revisiones posteriores. Pues pasaron las revisiones, incluso acaba de salir una NUEVA VERSION, y el problema, aparentemente sigue ahi, Lo que extraña y sorprende es que PGMusic no diga nada al respecto, silencio total. Yo mismo no he podido comprobar el problema en la version 2009 porque no he hecho el upgrade ni lo pienso hacer hasta que no este solucionado. Por lo que ruego a alguno de Uds. que tenga ya el BiaB 2009 si pudiesen hacer un test al respecto, simplemente tratar de grabar audio y midi al mismo tiempo, lo cual se selecciona y se habilita en la ventana de grabacion de audio que sale al darle al boton rojo correpondiente y seleccionar la opcion "grabar MIDI al mismo tiempo". Y si todavia estoy haciendo algo mal, despues de miles de pruebas, intento y configuraciones diferentes con mas de 5 tarjetas de audio diferentes y pruebas en al menos 6 conmputadoras con las versiones anteriores, pues me gustaría saber la solucion si alguien la tiene. Un gran abrazo para PGMusic y todos ustedes con los mejores deseos de un Año Nuevo 2009 lleno de paz, salud y mucha musica!! NOTA: Aún así con este problema, BiaB sigue siendo para mi un programa fundamental e indispensable y siempre sere su portavoz mas convencido!! Carlos Eduardo Arellano www.carlosarellano.com/musicwww.overloud.com -TH1 beta tester
Last edited by CarlosEArellano; 09/19/09 07:31 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Foro para el usuario de Band-in-a-Box en Español
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 72
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 72 |
Quote:
Hola jazzpick,
Te paso la respuesta del soporte técnico:
Hello Carlos:
We do appreciate you comments and apologize that the program does not meet your needs in this way. I will forward your comments to the development team for perusal.
Thank you,
Gail
PG Music Inc
Como verás el problema sigue aún sin solución, espero puedan dar con la tecla en las proximas producciones.
Supongo que intentarás con otros programas pero Band-in-a-Box estará de tu lado.
Saludos y felicitaciones por tu desempeño artístico.
H.Hugo
Hola Hugo, gracias por la información. Por lo visto es posible que el problema a nivel de programación sea mas dificil de solucionar de lo que pareciera. No dudo que encontraran resolverlo.
En cuanto a otros programas ya desde mediados de los 90 la grabación simultanea de audio y midi es norma comun y corriente en programas como Cubase, Logic Audio, Digital Performer y hoy día practicamente en la mayoría de los nuevos daws (Digital Audio Workstations) como Sonar, Pro-Tools. Debido a eso para mi no es problema hacerlo, ya que solo debo exportar la cancion a cualquiera de esos programas y trabajar alli, y de hecho asi lo he hecho siempre, sobre todo para la edición y creación de ejercicios en mis libros electronicos y videos para mis alumnos y proyectos personales. La razón por la cual también me es especialmente interesante esa caracteristica es porque me encanta tocar, improvisar y grabar mientras leo la partitura y los acordes, y aunque otros programas tengan edición y creacion de partituras, Band-in-a-Box es único en su estilo! . Además no podría prescindir de BiaB dada la cantidad de funciones y caracteristicas útiles que ofrece y las cuales uso a diario.
Creo que uno de los aspectos en donde Band-in-a-Box debe mejorar y renovarse, y en donde pienso que esta la raiz del problema, es en la implementación de su motor de audio, ya que las inmensas posibilidades que ahora esta ofreciendo con sus nuevos Real Drums, Real Tracks y nuevos estilos necesitan de mas versatilidad a la hora de configurar las tarjetas de audio, el MIDI (como interface de entrada y salida) y las salidas multicanal. Le deseo mucha suerte al equipo desarrolador de PG Music, pero antes que nada un enorme caudal de felicitaciones por una labor impresionantemente productiva que nos ha proporcionado a todos los usuarios muchas satisfacciones y beneficios.
Saludos y mucho exito.
Carlos E. A.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,149
Posts789,079
Members39,831
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean