I think I found the answer to my own question. In BIAB the patches I was looking for were labeled 'PRESET' but in RealBand they were not prefixed with 'PRESET' and they appeared in the first Bank instead of MSB BANK 2 CTRL 0. Can anyone help me to understand why they appear in Bank 0 rather then where Ketron reports that they are in control change 00 value=2? Thanks a bunch.