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Witam.
Mam pytanie, czy program Band-in-a-Box umożliwia zapis akordów w notacji instrumentów transponujących?
Przykładowo dla saksofonu altowego (Eb) - czy jest możliwe takie ustawienie, by wpisując akordy np Eb-G-C mogły być one widoczne w notacji transponowanej jako C-E-A ?
Pytanie dotyczy również zapisu nutowego lini melodycznej.
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Na pewno jest to możliwe w przypadku instrumentów RealTarcks. Natomiast czy istnieje taka ocpja dla ścieżek MIDI generowanych wewątrz programu, tego postaram się dowiedzieć w najbliższym czasie.

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Mój pomysł na zastosowanie jest bardzo prosty: do ćwiczeń gam uruchamiam sobie podkład w programie.
Przykładowo ćwiczę gamę C. Ponieważ saksofon altowy jest instrumentem transponującym brzmieniowo jest to gama Es. Zakładam, że w program mógłbym wpisać akord Es i ćwiczyć do tego moje C. Sprawa jednak się skomplikuje przy ćwiczeniu kilku gam - wówczas koniecznym byłby niezależny, odręczny zapis akordów ćwiczenia na papierze.

Czy opcja RealTracks realizuje taką funkcję i jest dostępna w najtańszym pakiecie programu "Band-in-a-Box Pro" w cenie 129,- USD ?

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No tak naturalnie to dobra metoda, podklad gra w tonacji oryginalnej a Ty w glowie transponujesz i grasz w transponowanej. Rozumeim ze oczekujesz tego ze bedzie wyswietlal progresje w tonacji Eb a gral w C?

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Tak właśnie.
Dla programu komputerowego wydaje się to proste, by wyświetlać w przesunięciu o tercję małą. Moja głowa przy ćwiczeniach jest już wystarczająco obciążona ;-)

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To dobrze:) Zobacz ile sie nauczysz i jak wiele zyskasz cwiczac w ten sposob:) Dajmy an to ze bedziesz mial do zagrania koncert z wokalistka, a jak powszechnie wiadomo kobiety do zmienych naleza. Zatem niepsianym przywilejem wokalistki jest zmiana tonacji w zaleznosci od tego, w jakiej kondycji jest jej instrument, ale czest jset to conajmneij tercja mala. W tym momencei twoje doswiadczenie bardzo sie przyda

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Teddy!

Mam dla Ciebie dobrą wiadomość!:) Przeszukałem dokument opisujący nowe funkcje Band in a Box 2010 i zobacz co znalazłem:

"W Band in a Box 2010 Poprawiono działanie transponujących instrumentów (Bb/Eb sax, trąbka itd.). Jeżeli kartka akordowa jest przetransponowana, możesz wpisać akordy w transponowanej tonacji, a one się wyświetlą jako wpisane w koncertową."

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Zatem oznacza to, że na pewno istnieje taka opcja i da się to ustawić, dlatego rozpoczynam kolejne rpzeszkuiwania, tym razem helpa dołączonego do BB 2010.

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Opcje Transpozycji

Te presety są ustawieniami transpozycji dla niekoncertowych (transponujących) instrumentów, takich jak blacha i dęte drewniane. Presety wprowadzą automatyczna prawidłową transpozycję i podział nut w pięciolinii. Np. Trąbka +2 zapisze muzykę 2 półtony w górę i punkt podziału melodii, będzie dostosowany, aby była zapisana w kluczu wiolinowym. Ustawienia dotyczą też Gitary i basu.

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Ustawienia Transozycji

Ustawienia Transpozycji pozwalają ręcznie dostosować Notację by pokazywała nuty wyżej lub niżej od granych.

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Badając sprawę dalej i poszukując ciekawych rozwiażań prześledziłem Helpa do BB 2010 . Oto co udało mi się znaleźć na ten temat: (tekst oryginalny)

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Concert Pitch Adjust

Important Note: The Concert Pitch Adjust is rarely used. A better way of transposing the notation for non-concert players is to just transpose the notation, using the Transpose Options found in the Notation Window Options.

Concert Pitch Adjust is occasionally useful for non-concert instruments such as Saxophone or Trumpet. The output is transposed so that you see the music in one key while it plays in another.

The concert pitch adjust setting is accessed from the Arrangement Options dialog box. Go to Opt. | Preferences and then click on the [Arrange] button.

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Właśnie znalazłem kolejne info na ten temat i oznajmiam że w Band in a Box 2010 udoskonalono opcje transpozycji.

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Poprawiono działanie transponujących instrumentów (Bb/Eb sax, trąbka itd.)


Jeżeli kartka akordowa jest przetransponowana, możesz wpisać akordy w transponowanej tonacji, a one się wyświetlą jako wpisane w koncertową.

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