Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Hi all. Recently picked up a couple of Roland JV-1080 external hardware synths.
GM Bank works great with BB 2011 - Really low cpu useage and zero latency, my main reason for adding harware synths.
Having problems accurately playing upper bank patches and expansion card patches.
If you're using JV-1080 upper bank patches and expansion card bank patches successfully with BB, please read and reply.
Have tried all the Roland .pat files for the JV-1080 - as well as .pat for Roland GM, JV-2080, JV-1010.
Have read through the .pat files for info and tried writing my own .pat for the JV-1080. I've read all the .pat help and tutorials I can find. No joy.
Reading through the forums, there was a problem a while back with BB playing upper bank patches (which was reported solved with a patch update over a year back). Is it possible this problem still exists for some synths (JV1080)?
I've been trying to work through this for several weeks without success.
I'm wondering, is BB 2011 actually capable of playing the upper patch banks and expansion cards or do I misunderstand?
If someone has a working .pat for the JV-1080 which accurately accesses upper bank and expansion card patches I'd be most grateful to receive a copy. Any advise is welcomed! Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114 |
Yes, BIAB should be able to play those upper banks once you have a patch map that includes them. I can address them on my Roland Fantom.
If you can find a SONAR patch map, BIAB can convert it.
Otherwise, if you have the manual for your unit listing the patches in the appendix, it is not that hard to modify a similar Roland unit's patch map to make your own. It is tedious work, but not difficult work. Many of us had to do it in earlier days.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Thanks for the reply, Matt.
The cakewalk tip was a good source to google. I found the .ini files for my jv's and the expansion cards.
I'm away from my DAW right now, but I'll have a go at converting the .ini files to .pat files and try them.
I did manually modify/write some .pat files for the JV1080. Yea, tedious. When selecting the higher patches through biab, sometimes they changed and the instrument sounded as expected (GM and User), most often the instrument which played was obviously not the instrument selected in biab from the "+" pull down menu.
Reading through a sonar forum from a google hit, they were writing that - in sonar - one needed to create a default multitibral template on the first performance bank within the JV-1080 unit itself to access the higher banks. And making some sonar specific setting and some JV specific setting for the two to communicate.
Is this also the case with biab? Any clue what setting are needed in biab or on the Roland?
The documentation on GM with desktop daw in the Roland manual is sketchy. It states to place the JV-1080 on GM mode (shift > GM). I get all the familiar GM patches and (many, not all) GS patches selecting those from the "GS" button on biab gui.
Does the JV-1080 need to be in a different (Performance?) mode to access the higher patch banks and expansion card patches and select the instruments through the biab gui interface ("+" pull down menu)?
....I'm not even going to ask about getting the JV-1080 working with RealBand. Yet.
Thanks in advance.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114 |
Since I don't know the JV-1080, I can just comment based on my experience with the Roland Fantom and the Edirol units I have used. If you are able to hear MIDI chords in GM mode, then you have set the correct mode for the higher patches as well. The other mode is for solo use (one voice alone). On my Fantom, the correct mode for BIAB is Performance.
In BIAB, I do NOT send GS or XG on startup (in the GM menu, Roland GS or Send MIDI Message). Nothing is checked for Send or Auto-send.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223 |
The JV-1080 may indeed need to be set to a certain mode to work reliably. I'd try paying attention to that.
As for Realband - You may actually find Realband easier for this. Some users appreciate the Classic Tracks window where it is possible to simply enter the bank and patch numbers in a box. Also, RB patchmaps are in a different format than BiaB (especially when converted to the actual binary file patches.bin). So it's also possible you'll see different performance in RB in this respect. The two programs share a lot of features, but they are quite different in the programming. Don't be afraid to try it.
I know BiaB is better for certain approaches to creating a song and in some other aspects. But RB is just as capable in many other ways. RB, for instance, offers a much more intuitive editing of MIDI and Audio, and many more routing and FX options. MUCH more intuitive mixing. More control over the tracks. More Flexible Realtracks editing and generation.
So they are alike in some ways, but very different in many respects. They work hand in hand to get you from creation to finished product. Create in BiaB, finish it in RB. Lots of us go that route.
The cool thing is you get them both when you buy BiaB.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Thanks, rharv, it's encouraging that using the JV-1080 with RB may be easier!
Matt, thanks again for your insights. Hoping for a JV-1080 user to come along with a little more specifics on how to get the 1080 to play nice with BB! cheers
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223 |
I'm sure there are people here who have knowledge on this. Hopefully they show up. Accessing 1080 patches should be easy enough.
How (exactly) are you trying to access the patches now?
Last edited by rharv; 04/29/11 04:30 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Hi rharv. Yes, hopefully, someone that's using the JV-1080 with biab will come along. I have a hunch I'm just missing something very simple here. I've been using softsynths previously and have just recently ventured into the hardware synth realm.
The scant 2 pages of instruction in the Roland manual about using the JV-1080 with a desktop computer system states to initalize the GM mode (press >shift>GM) "to play midi scores". This works fine for selecting the limited GM patch bank - 128 patches - through the biab gui. Of course, I'd like access the higher bank patches and expansion card patches through the biab / rb gui for another 1000+ patches.
All the JV's bank and exp card bank patches can be "demoed" directly from the JV's headphone output (or the audio outs into an amp) and pressing the vol button on the JV. Every 4 note demo plays ok. So they all work.
As mentioned before, I've tried all the appropriate Roland .pat files in the bb folder and on pg's .pat file page without higher patch joy. Some of these .pat files are written for a different exp card configuration, so I've also dabled with editing these. No joy in GM mode.
Don't know if it matters, but in configuring the synth in preferences, biab asks to select a .dk file from the pull down menu. There isn't a .dk for the JV-1080, so I've used "Roland Gen MIdi", "JV-1010", "JV-2080" and some others.
Recently, I downloaded and converted a cakewalknet .ini file to .pat. Essentially, the same result in GM mode.
(The converted cakewalk .ini > > .pat doesn't match my expansion card configuration, either and looks to have been somewhat edited/customized, so I know it will need further editing. Also, opening the converted patch file in notepad, it is formatted differently than the .pat available in the bb folder. It appears that there are several formats used for a .pat file.)
BUT, in a "Performance" mode setting on the JV, I CAN select higher patches through biab gui ("+") and many of the patches change - some sound close to what is expected, others are obviously not correct and some change (by default, I guess, when there is no valid higher patch?) to a regular GM bank patch.
At this point, it appears that I need to have the JV in "Performance" mode to access and select the higher banks through the biab gui. There are 64 "performances" that can be scrolled through with the JV value dial. They're all preset with different patches but I CAN select and change the instruments through bb gui - except the drums - though many of them are obviously wrong.
If I am on the right track with this theory, then what I need are JV-1080 settings required and how to enter those settings on the JV.
Google returned hits from a sonar forum where they were talking about setting up a "default performance mode" on the JV itself to use the JV with the sonar gui patch selection. If something similar is required for biab (/RB), that's the info I need.
Again, any advice will be appreciated, especially from JV-1080 users.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114 |
Hmm.
I would also like to know the answer to Bob's (rharv) question: how exactly are you trying to access the higher patches now?
I select an instrument button in BIAB and then click on the little plus sign to the left of the volume box. First, you load the .Pat file (once) and then you should be able to select the desired patch from the pull-down menu at left. Do the same for each instrument.
I do NOT set GM mode on in BIAB or the Roland.
I DO set Performance Mode (not Patch Mode) on the Roland, and it can be set to boot up that way.
I do NOT select anything special for the .DK in BIAB; I just let it use the General MIDI. Granted, it has been many years since I cared about MIDI drums when I have RealDrums.
The Roland JV-1080 was very popular but was last produced ten years ago, about the time I started using Roland synths, so my knowledge that is based on their newer units may not be applicable.
Hope that helps.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223 |
Quote:
The scant 2 pages of instruction in the Roland manual about using the JV-1080 with a desktop computer system states to initalize the GM mode (press >shift>GM) "to play midi scores". This works fine for selecting the limited GM patch bank - 128 patches - through the biab gui. Of course, I'd like access the higher bank patches and expansion card patches through the biab / rb gui for another 1000+ patches.
That is probably old info on using it in GM mode. Most Roalands need to be in performance mode to access extra banks. If that synth needs a special performance mode set up to work correctly, you'll need another JV1080 user to help. Accessing higher banks is most reliable using the MSB LSB changes to 'force' the synth to change. This info will be in the MIDI section of the manual. It may not be fun to read, but it is invaluable info. Labor thru the MIDI section of the manual and find what you need to make it work. Like I said earlier, some users like using the 'Classic Tracks' window because you can enter the MSB LSB info there easily. Reading the manual should help make sense of this. There are two numbers that call up a bank (MSB and LSB - most significant byte and least significant byte) then the program number for that bank.
For example a patch in Bank 22 may use MSB 22 and LSB 1 plus the program change number needed for that patch. All this info will be in the manual if it's a Roland (in my experience anyway).
You can also enter MSB and LSB using control changes in the event list ... but you'll still need access to the info on the numbers needed from the manual.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Quote:
How (exactly) are you trying to access the patches now?
Quote:
I would also like to know the answer to Bob's (rharv) question: how exactly are you trying to access the higher patches now?
I select an instrument button in BIAB and then click on the little plus sign to the left of the volume box. First, you load the .Pat file (once) and then you should be able to select the desired patch from the pull-down menu at left. Do the same for each instrument.
Good morning. As you do; select an instrument button in BIAB and then click on the ("+") to the left of the volume box. Selecting an instrument in the resulting dialog box changes the patch. Also, entering the MSB, LSB and patch numbers changes the patch.
They are just obviously wrong in with the JV-1080 in GM mode. i.e., selecting a wurly results in a helicopter.
Quote:
Most Roalands need to be in performance mode to access extra banks. If that synth needs a special performance mode set up to work correctly, you'll need another JV1080 user to help.
Yes, got that now, many thanks to you both, Matt, rharv. On the right track, now. At least, no longer beating my head against a wall trying get a pig to fly, e.g. higher banks working in GM Mode.
No JV user help yet, but I did find some useful info on the web also suggesting the JV must be in a "Performance" mode during 'multitimbral sequencing' to access upper banks.
That info was about recording each part of a new performance from a controller keyboard and saving that performance to a user performance preset. The writer stated it was best to select an existing preset performance which already has one patch to each midi channel, no layers, and modify and save it to a user preset. PRA-12 Pop Set was suggested as an ideal preset performance to modify.
I was able to adapt some of that info to modify PRA-12 to create and name a user preset and save it to a user destination. By changing another setting, the JV now boots to that preset if it was the last one used at shutdown.
With this modified preset, patch selection was more successful. (The .pat file I'm using still needs editing to match my configuration.) Navigating through different songs, many patches were changeable through the ("+") dialog.
Very encouraged with the progress, but......
Unfortunately, after turning the JV off and back on, it didn't work.
I overwrote USER Performance 1 (Techno). When I turned the JV back on, it did boot to the modified User Performance 1 preset and it did display the name I had assigned, but the instrument patches playing were back to the overwitten USER1 Techno performance. $%^#*!
Ok. Each patch/part may need to be saved individually on the JV before saving the performance preset (?). I'll try it again today. I must have missed something.
Question. When opening a new file, the patches playing are the old Techno. Once (if) biab and the JV are correctly set, opening a new file should send a control change for those instruments saved in the biab song file, right? I have just assumed this is so.... Is there a setting for this I'm missing in biab?
I'm getting dizzy.
Seems like this may work, eventually, but if anyone out there has another (*easier*)method, I'd appreciate the course correction.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114 |
Quote:
Unfortunately, after turning the JV off and back on, it didn't work.
In case it matters, you must also restart BIAB after turning off and on the Roland. BIAB must 'see' the synth when it starts, to have it listed in MIDI devices available. If you turn off the synth, you must restart BIAB.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Quote:
Quote:
Unfortunately, after turning the JV off and back on, it didn't work.
In case it matters, you must also restart BIAB after turning off and on the Roland. BIAB must 'see' the synth when it starts, to have it listed in MIDI devices available. If you turn off the synth, you must restart BIAB.
Thanks Matt! Yes, that does make a difference. Solved one issue. Still working on the others. Thanks again. Still open for additional guidance.......
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223 |
Quote:
Question. When opening a new file, the patches playing are the old Techno. Once (if) biab and the JV are correctly set, opening a new file should send a control change for those instruments saved in the biab song file, right? I have just assumed this is so.... Is there a setting for this I'm missing in biab?
You likely will not see the patch changes on the synth until you hit 'play' on BiaB. This is when it would send the patch changes via the MIDI out, not when it loads the file.. which is standard for any sequencer/DAW/accompaniment software. Makes sense, you may be loading one song while playing the synth as a segue, or still using it for another song in a live setting, etc. You wouldn't want the patches to change until the new song starts. As an even more 'in-depth' reason for this read on -
Say the patch in the synth has a flange effect to the sound. If it launched the sound when loaded, the flange may start it's cycling then, and depending when you hit play the flange may be at the top of a cycle or the bottom. Having the flange start when triggered by the sequnce ensures the cycle is replicated as desired.. even more true when you use the sequencer to contol an effects module. Nice to know how that effect is going to sound when you need it. We used to 'time' the patch change on both a Boss SE-50 and Yamaha FX-500 effects modules for this reason when using a computer for the click (and lights and video etc).
Last edited by rharv; 05/01/11 10:56 AM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Quote:
You likely will not see the patch changes on the synth until you hit 'play' on BiaB. This is when it would send the patch changes via the MIDI out, not when it loads the file..
Right. So, just like using a vsti softsynth, it is expected that loading a saved biab song, then selecting "play" in the biab gui should load the correct instruments from the style (or the instrument presets previously saved in a biab song) into the JV? Same with "replay", right? (except that "replay" doesn't regenerate the biab arrangement) Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Quote:
I do NOT set GM mode on in BIAB or the Roland.
I DO set Performance Mode (not Patch Mode) on the Roland, and it can be set to boot up that way.
I do NOT select anything special for the .DK in BIAB; I just let it use the General MIDI.
Check. Thanks Matt
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,223 |
Quote:
it is expected that loading a saved biab song, then selecting "play" in the biab gui should load the correct instruments from the style (or the instrument presets previously saved in a biab song) into the JV?
If they were saved with the song, and in the performance mode of the JV, yes.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
They are just obviously wrong in with the JV-1080 in GM mode. i.e., selecting a wurly results in a helicopter.
This sounds like there may be a numerical difference.
It might just be that your BiaB is set to send "Yamaha-based" Patch nubering scheme, which instead of the standard 001 (Grand Piano) to 128 (helicopter) uses 000 for the Grand piano and 127 for the heli.
If your BB is set to Yamaha or "zero based" patch numbers, it can be confusing as some patches will seem to be playing fthe right instrument but others will be as you have observed.
Inside Band in a Box, under the GM menu, make sure that you have it set to Roland based 1 - 128 and not to Yamaha Zero based. That might be what is happening.
BTW - the helicopter is part of the standard GM bank. If you have tried to invoke an Upper Bank and still are hearing the heli, that is a clue. Shouldn't be any heli on any upper bank.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 49 |
Quote:
Quote:
They are just obviously wrong in with the JV-1080 in GM mode. i.e., selecting a wurly results in a helicopter.
This sounds like there may be a numerical difference.
It might just be that your BiaB is set to send "Yamaha-based" Patch nubering scheme, which instead of the standard 001 (Grand Piano) to 128 (helicopter) uses 000 for the Grand piano and 127 for the heli.
If your BB is set to Yamaha or "zero based" patch numbers, it can be confusing as some patches will seem to be playing fthe right instrument but others will be as you have observed.
Inside Band in a Box, under the GM menu, make sure that you have it set to Roland based 1 - 128 and not to Yamaha Zero based. That might be what is happening.
BTW - the helicopter is part of the standard GM bank. If you have tried to invoke an Upper Bank and still are hearing the heli, that is a clue. Shouldn't be any heli on any upper bank.
--Mac
Thanks for the advice, Mac. Yeah, the gobbedlygook that passes for a Roland Manual states to place the JV-1080 in "GM Mode" for midi score playback. Wrong. Wasted a lot of time following that instruction. The upper banks can't be accessed accurately in the JV's "GM Mode". The JV must be in "Performance Mode" for multitimbral playback from higher banks.
None of the .pat files or converted .ini files I found worked correctly in my JV (most appear to have been customized by their creators for their own patch / expansion card configuration). Some ZEROBASED, some "1" based. With trial and error, I spent much of the day yesterday creating a "1" based .pat file that works for my JV's 4 banks, and three expansion cards. I can now access all patches on each bank accurately from the "+" menu dialogue box. Finally.
A question for anyone - Matt, rharv, Mac - anybody.
Still apparently need to figure out how to correctly save the parts / patches in the default user performance I have created in the JV as a template for sequencing with Biab (Oh, NO! Back into the dreaded $#@%& Roland Manual).
When opening a bb song file and selecting "play" or "replay", the patches from my biab song file aren't getting to the JV:
Turn on the JV-1080 (set to boot to the "Performance Mode" template I created)> Open Biab> Select "Play"/"Replay = The patches from the JV USER performance 1 play, not the patches I saved with my biab song.
I can select each instrument from the bb gui> select "+"> select the patch I need from the drop down> change the instrument patches manually one at time = plays fine.
I'm expecting the JV to receive and play the patch settings from my saved biab song when I select "play" / "replay". But it's not. Am I overlooking some setting in biab? Or some JV-1080 setting?
Thanks again, gentlemen. I very much appreciate your guidance.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,114 |
Take a look in BIAB at Alt+F2, which is File, Save Song with Patches and Harmony. Make sure all the left-hand column checkboxes are checked, and the Save All Settings With Songs checkbox in the upper right is checked.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,622
Posts781,874
Members39,704
|
Most Online25,754 Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|