Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#114439 05/16/11 05:50 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
90 dB Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Hello all.

I am trying to arrange a song that has a hammer-on effect on two chords, i.e., I need two chords to play in the same beat of a 4/4 measure. I have tried using the "^", but can't get the timing right. Any help?


Thanks.

90 dB #114440 05/16/11 05:58 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
I don't think that is possible at this point in time without resorting to doing the entire song in doubletime with each bar representing half of the original tempo's bar.

Forcing a Hammer-on is likely not possible to do easily either.


--Mac

Mac #114441 05/16/11 06:03 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
90 dB Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Rats.


Thanks Mac.

90 dB #114442 05/17/11 12:08 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,492
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,492
If your piece of music permits it, use RealBand. It will still be some trial and error. You may put the first chord on a different track (using the same instrument) and the second is on the regular track for that instrument -- pushed back a little to achieve the effect.

I haven't tried it, it's just wild guessing that it might work. The general public will not hear the jerryrigging.


Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
GHinCH #114443 05/17/11 09:46 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
90 dB Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Quote:

If your piece of music permits it, use RealBand. It will still be some trial and error. You may put the first chord on a different track (using the same instrument) and the second is on the regular track for that instrument -- pushed back a little to achieve the effect.

I haven't tried it, it's just wild guessing that it might work. The general public will not hear the jerryrigging.







Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm just going to program the hammer-ons one note at a time in Sonar. I just wish it were possible in BIAB.


Don't get me wrong - I absolutely LOVE BIAB and RB! I can't get out of the studio since I got it!

90 dB #114444 05/17/11 10:42 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Quote:

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm just going to program the hammer-ons one note at a time in Sonar. I just wish it were possible in BIAB.





That is one way to do it. Another way is Sonar is to extend the note(s) forward to where you want the hammer-on to start then do a very quick pitch bend.

I’ll explain. Say you have your pitch bend setting at 1000 = ½ step and you want a 1/2 step hammer-on. Then at the start of the hammer-on insert a pitch bend setting of –1000. At the end of the hammer on set it at 0. Make sure there is no pitch bend settings between those two. I have used this method in the past.

I hope this helps - MarioD


Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
MarioD #114445 05/17/11 12:07 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
90 dB Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Quote:

Quote:

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm just going to program the hammer-ons one note at a time in Sonar. I just wish it were possible in BIAB.





That is one way to do it. Another way is Sonar is to extend the note(s) forward to where you want the hammer-on to start then do a very quick pitch bend.

I’ll explain. Say you have your pitch bend setting at 1000 = ½ step and you want a 1/2 step hammer-on. Then at the start of the hammer-on insert a pitch bend setting of –1000. At the end of the hammer on set it at 0. Make sure there is no pitch bend settings between those two. I have used this method in the past.

I hope this helps - MarioD






I've got to try that. Thanks Mario.

90 dB #114446 05/17/11 12:37 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
You can do it one note at a time in BIAB, but really only on the Soloist or Melody track (you can make changes to the other tracks only as long as they are frozen). Using the Piano Roll window, you can move notes forward and back in time pretty easily, as well as do pitch bends. Check out Piano Roll in the help system.


John

Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD
Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA

BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK

http://www.sus4chord.com
jford #114447 05/17/11 01:25 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
90 dB Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Quote:

You can do it one note at a time in BIAB, but really only on the Soloist or Melody track (you can make changes to the other tracks only as long as they are frozen). Using the Piano Roll window, you can move notes forward and back in time pretty easily, as well as do pitch bends. Check out Piano Roll in the help system.







Thanks John. I haven't gotten into step sequencing in BIAB yet, although I've done it for years in Sonar.
The two programs integrate really well though. I will explore that avenue.

90 dB #114448 05/17/11 06:22 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5
E
Newbie
Offline
Newbie
E
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5
Hello,

If you desire to have two chords in a single beat, one possible option is to halve the tempo of the song (this would probably require some reinstrumentation). This could effectively offer the equivalent of 2 eighth-note chords. Probably not the exact effect you're looking for, but it's an option.

Thanks,
Evan

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
90 dB Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Quote:

Hello,

If you desire to have two chords in a single beat, one possible option is to halve the tempo of the song (this would probably require some reinstrumentation). This could effectively offer the equivalent of 2 eighth-note chords. Probably not the exact effect you're looking for, but it's an option.

Thanks,
Evan







Thanks Evan. I will try that. You guys have a great set of programs.



Regards.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,304
Posts777,527
Members39,612
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Claudio Paolini, bjornen71, CATBELLOU, Banjopotamus, BudLab
39,612 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 147
zedd 119
DC Ron 107
WaoBand 102
nonchai 94
rsdean 88
Today's Birthdays
Manos
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5