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I've got the Audiophile 2009, with the harddrive and all, and I see now that even this same year's update to 2011.5 tacks on more money on an upgrade it seems. The reason I did't upgrade in 2010 is because I really didn't see anything in the Realtracks that I needed, like I was looking for more harp, as in blues harp, tracks and more steel guitar tracks. I still don't see anything new in the harmonica but was thinking I might go for an upgrade anyway, but I don't think I want to pay over 3 bills Canadian for just an upgrade. I mean I just upgraded Cubase and it was less than 2 bills. Is there any way around this, keeping in mind that I need the wave files full quality? Thanks.
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Wait for a sale. One is usually on in December and in midyear. The latter didn't happen this cycle, so let's see what happens around Christmas. The savings are substantial.
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Hi FiveHands,
There's a huge huge difference between BIAB 2009 and the present BIAB.
From memory, I'm guessing there's around 3 times the number of Realtracks (if not more), the stretching routines used to work with today's Reatracks is vastly superior, and both BIAB and RB have undergone some major programming modifications.
As a comparison, I have the UltraPlus Pak (wma files) and, because I upgrade at every opportunity, I have spent around $500 - $600 in upgrades from 2009 through 2009.5, 2010, 2010.5, 2011 and finally to 2011.5. The $300 to upgrade from audiophile to audiophile is cheap by comparison. Personally, I do not think that you are going to get any better value than that (especially given that the gap between 2009 and the latest version will widen).
As already mentioned, the today's version of the program is a whole heap superior.
Kind regards, Noel
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I've got the Audiophile 2009, with the harddrive and all, and I see now that even this same year's update to 2011.5 tacks on more money on an upgrade it seems.
I know that 64 gigas for a download are a lot, but for updating from Audiophile 2011 to 2011.5 I had to pay 25 dollars for postage and about 50 dollars for Italian custom taxes. That makes 75 dollars I could invest on software. I wish I could spend some time downloading instead wasting my money.
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one might also consider switching over to the non-Audiophile "standard" version and save some money that way.
The audio quality of the standard version is quite good indeed, especially with the new 2011.5 version.
Something to seriously consider IMO,
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The big question is: what are you using it for? If you have a professional application, then you need the best tools for the job that you can afford. If (like me) you are a hobbyist, then upgrading every few years makes the most sense.
But the affordability really is a function of how much you need the tools.
How often do you replace your car?
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Well the upgrade that comes every 6 months usually cost roughly $99. $149.00 if you want to get another hard drive. I went out to dinner with another couple and picked up the tab.It was well over $149.00. I wouldn't tell them this but BIAB is a WHOLE lot more fun.
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If you decide to buy some upgrade now, do it in the next week. According to the prices listed here: http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm the special pricing expires July 31.
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I'd like to see the holds and pushes made a lot more realistic than pay for more and more and more RealTracks...
Some of the basics are still as flakey as hell.
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There have been at least two updates to RealTracks in the past year to improve the holds and pushes.
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OK, so there are two options to upgrade here that are confusing me. One says 2009 or earier for $499 and the other says Audiophile to Audiophile for $299. Do I qualify for the Audiophile to Audiophile because I have the Audiophile 2009 version? At $299 it's still a toss up for me but if someone could clarify that for me at least I know what the real option is. Thanks. My way of working with it isn't that unique, I start a song in Cubase and then I go to BIAB and see if I can squeeze out a good bass track that I can use, or a harmonica track, or a pedal steel track. So I don't use it that exclusively like some folk do. I'd like to try that one day, just do a whole song with tracks from BIAB, but usually it's for something that I need for a particular song. So I do need the Wave files, and I wouldn't be happy with the compressed files.
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Hi Fivehands,
Give PG Music a ring and ask about which upgrade is the best. Sales people do not generally use these forums. Alternatively, you could send an email or use live help. Personally, I've found live help is terrific.
From what the product page says, I suspect that you are eligible for the audiophile to audiophile upgrade for $299. As I'm not a salesman, though, I don't know for sure.
Regards, Noel
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Cool inside joke, Noel. Wry.
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Hi Matt,
Woops! Because I don't have any sense of humour, I immediately knew something was wrong! I think I've fixed it up, now. Thanks for saving me from embarrassment!
Noel
Last edited by Noel96; 07/23/11 12:13 AM.
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Re post it. Geez, now we are curious about how you went a wry. 
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Re post it. Geez, now we are curious about how you went a wry.
Yea come on.I kept trying to figure it out.
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I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
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Maybe they should date first Noel and see if they are compatible ! 
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I have been a user since ver. 1.2. I would really like to see a LOYALTY pricing for people such as myself. I would be afraid to figure out my total cost in upgrades.
How about it mr. Gannon?
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My main reason for BIAB is to record pro style demos for my original songs.I believe Ive got that now with Ultraplus 2011 and dont think I need to up grade for quite awhile UNLESS PG brings out something that compels me to buy the upgrade... what that could be Ive no idea.frankie
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