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Thanks Noel, give that a try
Bob
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On the other hand, you could shell out the quite reasonable price for an upgrade -- especially to the UltraPlusPAK or EverythingPAK -- and we guarantee you will be completely and utterly blown away with how BIAB has evolved over the past ten years. 
Best, Tom SmithWin10/64 • i7-8700K • 24 GB RAM BIAB 2025 • Reaper 7 • Izotope MPS AKG C1000S • IK iRig I/O Pro
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Yes indeed I could Tom but if you've got a piece of kit which says it will do something and then doesn't (and, when you delve into the Help to find out why, goes straight into full-on techno-speak), why would you go out and buy another one?
This isn't rocket science, this is an auto-accompaniment programme which won't write a wav. Hardly confidence-inspiring.
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My version (the current one) and the previous one, both made .wav files from whatever was there without problem.
I have all sorts of files that came out of the software, some are now mp3's, some are wma's and a few are even in apple format, (because I could).
Never had a problem.
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That's great, John. I'm just pushing the button that says do it and it's not, so I came to forum for advice. Is all!
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Robert, I'm expecting that PG Support will be able to address this one way or another but... I suspect that BIAB 11 may be incompatible with whatever version of Windows you're running. Although you could try Compatibility Mode (right-click on the icon, or the program in Explorer, and select Properties) set to Windows 98.
Best, Tom SmithWin10/64 • i7-8700K • 24 GB RAM BIAB 2025 • Reaper 7 • Izotope MPS AKG C1000S • IK iRig I/O Pro
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Hi Tom
You learn something every day - never new this thingy existed.
I didn't realise our BIAB was so ancient - it's a bit of a resurrection job. I'll try your thing out and get back to you.
Thanks for sticking with it.
Bob
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Robert, If you have a few spare minutes, you should have a listen to some of the demos on the web page below. http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.realtracks.htmThis will give you a rough idea of how far BIAB has come since you bought your version! Good luck with it all, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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Hi Noel It's a stunning selection. no doubt, impressive quality and all, but I have reservations. I'm an old-school analogue guitar-and-piano teacher-cum-player. My stand-out feature, if you like, is that I can teach people to 'mess around with chords'. On one level, it's great that people can put together music from bits of other people's performances and there's obviously a massive market for it, but my concern is to equip people to compose and play the 'generic' grooves BIAB is selling. I have a website, www.musicarta.com, currently free-to-air, dedicated to this aim. Musicarta desperately needs needs 'sexing up', with, in particular, drum backing for the audio performance clips which litter the site. Whereupon it will become a well-respected and reasonably popular membership site which pays its own way. Anyway, that's what I want the drum tracks for. Just so's you know! Good luck with your stuff, too! Robert
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Of course we'll stick with you, Robert, that's what we do here. I like your site -- in fact, I'll likely check it out in detail if I ever get a decent keyboard. I had piano lessons in my teens, but they never stuck, which annoys me to this day, as I love piano music from Beethoven to Billy Joel and wish I could play. If worse comes to worst, I've got a stopgap for this particular project: If you can't figure out any other way to do it, you can send me the .SGU/.MGU/.MID file by e-mail (filkertom at yahoo dot com), and I'll render it for you, both the MIDI with Addictive Drums and using a few different RealDrums tracks. I'll then upload them to my web space, tomsmithonline.com, and you can download them at your leisure. Reasonable?
Best, Tom SmithWin10/64 • i7-8700K • 24 GB RAM BIAB 2025 • Reaper 7 • Izotope MPS AKG C1000S • IK iRig I/O Pro
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Hi Tom
Very kind, but it's an ongoing thing - got to learn to do it myself. I've got the whole site to upgrade.
As for your pianistic career, I suggest you make do with a less-than-perfect keyboard for now and get started - keyboard know-how is a mountain built from daily teaspoon-sized efforts and efficient practice a la Musicarta is the only thing approaching a short-cut you'll find.
See you on the site!
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Whenever any verasion of Band in a Box does not do something that it is supposed to do:
**First, check the Support Pages and find the latest Update for your version of the program, compare it to what is reported in your Help->About window inside BiaB, and, if your version is not the latest available update, download and install the update. I do seem to recall a fix released for one of the older versions that addressed this exact problem.
**Sometimes all that is needed is a reboot of the computer. Believe it or not. My Scientific Wild-A Guess on that one is that resources can sometimes get tangled up and a reboot puts the bit ducks back in a row behind the mama bit duck. But this has indeed brought the program back to full functionality a few times here, especially if there has been a rather long editing session to a songfile before the desired operation fails to work.
**Inside BiaB, under the Options menu, is "Return to Factory Settings". Try it as well. There is a critical file that the program must be able to write to when it closes and it also must be able to read from it when the program is opened. Often can be the case that file gets corrupted at some time when BB freezes, crashes, or otherwiase must be exited in any way other than gracefully getting thru the Close Program routines. So by all means, always try the Return to Factory Settings command when the program stops doing something that it is supposed to do - but only after making sure that you're also up to date as regards those critical Program Updates.
How to find the Updates?
There's hotlink in my dotsig file, under almost every post I make here. That's one way to find 'em fast...
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Understood completely, Bob, both on the drums and the keyboard. I actually have a first-gen Oxygen8 keyboard (all 25 keys of it), which will likely be enough for me to start with; I'm hoping to get a halfway decent el cheapo 49- or 61-key controller sometime next year. Of course, I've been saying that for ten years now....
Best, Tom SmithWin10/64 • i7-8700K • 24 GB RAM BIAB 2025 • Reaper 7 • Izotope MPS AKG C1000S • IK iRig I/O Pro
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Hi Mac
Thanks for the helpful post. I am going through the steps - will let you know.
Thanks again
Bob
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Hi Mac
Well! I restored factory settings and now I can't hear anything at all!!
BB asks me if I want to reinstall drivers for anything and everything, I say yes, re-start/re-boot, no sound. Volume at 90, pianola keys all going, instruments all blue.
Any ideas??!!
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Cancel last post!! Sound is back! Had left Output device on my MIDI modem. Sorry for the confusion.
I now see that I have a pdf ofr the BIAB upgrade which I don't know about which says:
"To use the Direct-To-Disk Rendering feature, first make sure that you have
installed the Roland VSC3. If you have installed the Roland VSC3, you'll see
it listed as one of the output drivers when you choose Opt. | MIDI driver setup.
"You don't have to select the Roland VSC3 to use the Direct-to-Disk Rendering,
you just need to have installed the driver at some time.
[ENDS]
aAppararently I don't have, so I'll get that installed and see what pots.
Cheers, and thanks again.
Bob
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Why not export the MIDI drum track from BIAB, import it into Sonar, and render it to audio there? Noel is right though--contact support for a solution. I doubt very few of the forum members have version 11 or the manual at this point.
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OMG why don't I listen? Perhaps I couldn't believe this could be so easy?! Because I thought you needed a VST drummer? Anyway, I did what you said and ba-boom - exact same sound in Sonar! How do they do that?! And you can change the tempo!!
And I just know someone suggested this about three days / 12 posts ago...!
Guys - Tom, Noel, John, Fred, Mac - I hope you all see this post. THANKS. Life, God, whatever, never gives up on you - always a lesson! I'm laughing!
Thanks again
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P.S. Bedtime here.
Later!
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Hi again
Here's a real newbie question. I export the BB MIDI and open it in Cubase. I've only saved the bass and drums. Cubase plays the MIDI tracks using Microsoft GS Wavetable synth (don't laugh!).
My questions are:
1. Would it be worth my while installing Roland VSC3? Would I get better sounds? Really don't want to get too hi-tech here, this really only needs to be one step up from a metronome click!
2. How do I get to choose the instruments? Messing with 'Channel' doesn't have any effect apart from the bass somtimes going to a piano voice.
3. If I open the drum track I see drum sounds assigned to keyboard keys. Where do I get a 'map' which tells me which keys are which sounds?
Appreciate any pointers to a newbie sequencing forum if this is toooooooo tedious!
Thanks anyway
Bob
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