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I'm using BIAB 2011 on a new Windows 7 machine (notebook) along with SONAR X1. I have a song based on one of the BIAB demos (jazz brushes) for which drums are the only real instrument (RealDrums). In BIAB, playback is fine, drums (audio) and other tracks (bass, piano, etc. - BIAB/MIDI) are completely in sync. I save the song (.MGU) and also export it to standard MIDI. Open the all-MIDI file in SONAR, playback is fine, as usual. Then I import the audio (.WAV) track automatically created by BIAB into a new audio track in SONAR, lined up at the first measure. The playback of the drums (audio) and the MIDI tracks are out of sync by a fraction of a second - not sure exactly how much, but audibly and unusably so. I have tried manually shifting the audio track to line up with the MIDI and have never succeeded.
I searched for "latency" here and I read somewhere that there is a setting for adjusting latency between audio and MIDI rendering, which I assume is for playback in BIAB. But there everything is fine (I think something was set when I installed on this PC, an audio setup step that presumably sets this based on a test). Is there anything you have to do to export real audio and MIDI tracks so they will line up when imported to a DAW such as SONAR?
A possible workaround might be to render the MIDI tracks to audio in BIAB (I think I have done that - I've been away from recording for a couple of years). But I really want to render the MIDI tracks using the various soft synths in SONAR, so I really need the MIDI and RealDrums to line up.
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Bruce Irving
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Bruce, Usually you can drag the audio file in Sonar, and line it up that way. One other thought is to open the .mgu file in Realband, and add your favorite VSTis there, and then export as all wave files for import into Sonar. I have done that with Sonar X1 essentials, and it works pretty good. Lastly once opened in RealBand, and the VSTis are added you might try finishing the song there, you might be surprised!!
Hope this helps a bit, if not post back, and maybe one of the big time Sonar gurus will weigh in.
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Sounds like the choice of MIDI synth in SONAR, along with possibly the latency settings for it, is the culprit because it is playing back fine in BiaB and the problem occurs in Sonar. Check out what MIDI synth is selected in Sonar, also check for latency possiblities there.
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Thanks for the ideas - I will check those things out.
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Thoughts:
The audio tracks you export from BIAB are 16 bit/44.1, or CD quality. If SONAR defaults to a different bit or sampling rate, perhaps that would cause a problem, especially if there are already tracks of a different rate in the same project. Not sure, never tried that in SONAR.
I would also reboot and then load each program fresh and try again.
Does the tempo in your MIDI file remain at the same value?
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Is the tempo set in Sonar exactly the same as set in BIAB ? They need to be exact before you transfer the realtrack
Cheers.
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