Thanks again all I have it now(I think) & John in London, Turnip you say. I get your pun but!!, that particular veg is spelled rutabaga where as I'm rutabago. Totally not the same! I'm a cross between a Winabago & a rutabaga. Your suggestion of contactig Ian Fraser is a good idea. We have e-mail chatted a couple of times. Thaks all..Hank