|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
I just upgraded from 2011 UltraPlusPak to 2012. I have previously been installing all wav files on a separate HD and the rest in C:\Program Files (x86)\BIAB with not too many issues. Opening BIAB for the first time it popped up the yellow warning stating that it should be installed outside of the program files directory and preferably in the C: root directory. I don't remember this waring before.
Do I have to move this new version as suggested if I have full Windows administrative rights? Anyone else avoiding the warning and working out fine? If I have to move it should I uninstall and reinstall or just move it directly?
Thanks for any help that you may provide.
And thanks PG for a seriously featured filled update/upgrade.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,179
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,179 |
BiaB gets installed in C:\bb I think it looks there for other files.
That may be part of the issue. I remember others having issues when using the programx86 folder for the install.
Last edited by rharv; 12/06/11 05:14 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
Thanks for the reply, rharv.
If that is the case then perhaps the installer should not give an option on where to install the main files.
Like I mentioned earlier, 2011 seemed to work OK with only a few issues here and there that may or may not have been because of the location.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,179
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,179 |
If it's a *new* warning, I bet it's there for a reason!
I'd suggest reinstalling to correct directory, not copying.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058 |
I can confirm that attempting to make BIAB work from the /Program Files folder or /Program Files (x86) folder is a bad thing. There are other posts from several months ago when we discussed this, and the poster had permission problems that went away when the program was reinstalled in /BB. A staffer from PG Music came on the thread and confirmed this advice. Administrative UAC rights were not sufficient to solve the problem.
It's not that the /BB folder is anything magical; it's that Windows uses the one or two /Program Files folders for a specific use and, at least with BIAB, it causes problems. Put BIAB anywhere else.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
Thanks Matt.
I have been using the new version without any problems tonight setup like I described earlier. I must have missed those threads or I wouldn't have installed into program files.
To prevent any issues, I will uninstall and reinstall before I get too involved with any new projects.
Thanks guys for all of your help and insight.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
Along the same lines...Once I uninstall and reinstall to the root directory does it matter if I change the default folder name to BIAB instead of bb?
Also, will it be OK if I just drag any sub directories I have accumulated to this new directory such as user files, my midi styles, my styles, etc.?
I just noticed that C:\bb has a folder named BBHelper and RealTracksPatchNames within. Could that be dragged into the C:\BIAB folder or renamed as BIAB?
Sorry if my questions are a little petty but I want to get the best bang out of this great software that I can without running into issues that slow the creative process.
Thanks again for your help.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
I just looked in the Windows uninstall dialog and found the following PG programs to uninstall:
BIAB Server
Beginner Piano Master Class
Guitar Chord Dictionary
Master Flatpick Guitar Volume 1
Master Jazz Guitar Solos 3
Notematch
PG Music DirectX Plugins 2.0.0.0 (listed twice)
Piano Chord Dictionary
and
Realtracks Bonus Set 1
Most of these programs are installed independently into their own directories so I shouldn't have to worry about these. Problem is I don't see a BIAB or RealBand uninstall and I am not sure what the BIAB Server is.
Looking for suggestions before I make a bigger mess out of all of this.
Again, thanks for your help.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058 |
I am reasonably certain you could change the main directory from BB to BIAB. I am not so sure about subfolders, and would guess you should not change them. As far as I've seen, the only folders you can redefine are for RealDrums and RealTracks.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058 |
2nd post crossed. I do not believe there is an uninstall for BIAB, nor is one needed. Just delete the /BB folder and its contents.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
Sorry for the disjointedness but looking in the directory where I installed BIAB/RealBand I see a directory named "uninstall" with 21 .dat and application files.
What to do?
Thanks for your expert tutelage.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 15,831
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 15,831 |
It is given as a "tip", not a warning. The distinction is that you can turn tips off, in Prefs-Show Tips. The specific tip about not using "Program Files (x86)" or its' sibling "Program Files" is because that folder has special rules, that change with each OS release. For example, files in that folder are hidden by the OS from users other than the user that was present when the file got written. The files get written to "virtual" folders, and other strange rules. Essentially Windows wants to keep the Program Files folder safe from changes, so that one user won't come back to it and see a file that he didn't put there (another user did). All of this makes sense in an environment where there are admins and users sharing a PC, but are not that necessary when it's "just you" using the PC. So, keep the program in "Program Files (x86)" if you want, we advise against it though. You can read more about it here http://blogs.scb.rit.edu/dave/2007/02/09/windows-vista-virtualized-files/
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
Thank you, Peter. I misinterpreted the tip for a warning. I am the only one using this PC so unless an OS update changed that I should be OK.
But I respect your advise and will install in the root directory as noted.
Still curious about the uninstall procedures.
Thanks again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,058 |
I don't think I said 'warning' but thanks, Peter for all that info. It is interesting and mysterious about Windows.
EDIT: Oh, I found it. 'Warning' was used in the first post and the title.
Last edited by Matt Finley; 12/06/11 09:05 PM.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
I remember now what my main issue was with 2011. 90% of the time BIAB would crash if I tried to save a part as a wav or tried to drag and drop in DAW mode as a wav.
On a lark I moved all of my BIAB files (except the Realtracks/RealDrums which are on a separate drive) to the C:\bb folder and still the crash happened.
As was suggested, I deleted the BIAB folder within the program files folder and am now reinstalling using custom install for only the non Realtracks/RealDrums data.
The install is now complete and I will try to save and/or drag and drop to see if the crash reoccurs.
Please bear with me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217 |
>>>...does it matter if I change the default folder name to BIAB instead of bb? ...>>>
I keep my BiaB executables in a folder called C:\Band in a Box\. I have done it that way for longer than I can remember, across many new-version installs. I keep RealTracks separately, on the hard drive I got from PG Music.
Works fine.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 193 |
Sorry for the bother but here is what I have found after reinstalling to the C:\bb directory:
Of course I lost my GUI customization but at least the drag an drop worked with the exception of the error "Server execution failed" but the wav file was properly dropped.
The save realtrack as wav file works without any errors thank goodness.
Now all I have to do is to customize my GUI and copy the user files over to be where I was before the update/upgrade. With the exception of all the nice changes to the program(s).
Thank you for all of your help.
And BTW, I absolutely love the direct guitar RealTracks so I can run them through my amp sim of choice like POD Farm, Amplitube, Guitar Rig, Head Case (guitarist really need to check this marvel out), etc.
Not that the effected RealTrack guitars were bad but choices are important.
Thank you for your reply, flatfoot. I normally like to keep all of my programs in a program directory and with a name I can associate with. No big deal here since I am cooking grease now :-) .
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,399
Posts778,693
Members39,648
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean