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the ability to hear each note in the event editing list, as you scroll it. More classical styles. World music styles. Punch in/ punch out points in Realband by clicking directly on the midi or waveform, rather than entering numbers, that's too dull.

Good intros and endings in Biab, similar to the ones in the Yamaha workstations. Especially the intros, are too dull and predictable, always starts with I, ends with V , etc

The ability to program, simply and without fuss:

crescendos,
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rallentandos,
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I am sure I have more, I even made a list that I have somewhere, but for now these are the ones I thought of

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I would like to have the midi option to trigger real drum sounds . You have so many beats available if the user that has no other software to make great drum sounds were able to ,it would be more attractive to new customers . Your Software has been going that way of a 1 software is all you need anyway .

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Some kind of facility to add your own chord voicings for supported chords that can override basic 7th chord template in existence. Or even the ability to add your own previously unsupported chords.

To make files transferrable to those who don't yet possess the custom chords you've applied might be a problem; this info would have to written into the file somehow or else the user would have to include a separate file containing the voicing rules table applied.


This custom chord voicing table or mapping function could be applied 'globally' either at the level of the specific midi style in use, or if possible all of the styles; whichever is more achievable technically.

If this global option isn't possible an alternative might be an extension of the stylemaker commands to target specific midi notes in a style to allow the user to copy move delete these notes rather than simply alter their velocity 9which currently exists).

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A reconfiguration of the pattern editor to include 4 or 8 bar patterns which would do most to make midi comping more true to how musicians actually space out and 'think through' their patterns over larger time frames. Essential for jazz. Along with increased resolution this is the feature that would make people change their minds about midi.

Just now this has to be simulated through use of holds and shots, to get the pianist to 'shut up' or else use blank patterns.

An addition to the number of chord masks applicable to any pattern in the stylemaker.
At the moment Major chord masks get applied to altererd major inappropriately.
In the same way, 7sus masks are currently applied to complex extended dominants like 7susb9#11b13 that sound totally out of place as they're meant for more consonant riff voicings.

m7 masks should also be distinguished from mMaj7.

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We also need the ability to manage sysex, RPN and NRPN in the midi tracks., at any place in the track and not only in the beginning, for example to control internal audio effects of MIDI expanders like Ketron SD2.


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Ability to set higher bank patches from the mixer.

This is a small thing. Peter you did say after 2011.5 was released this would be done. I haven't upgraded yet, so I'm not sure it hasn't been done, but I didn't see it in the list of new features. Again, a small convenience, but would be appreciated here at least.

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Being able to SAVE the POSITION of the fretboard (i.e TABS) on the Melody or SOLOIST tracks for guitar parts that don't have the channels 11 to 16 specified (such as in cases when a MIDI file is imported with only one channel for the guitar part.) Many times I am able to find the best fingering position for the tabs, but then I have to redo it everytime I open the file again next time... and many songs may have different position and I won't be able to remember which position goes with which song... unless the position is saved with the song.


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I'd really like to see the midi sync clock, stop, start, tempo, song position, ... all sent down to the VST/VSTi plugins.

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Selective eliminate Note Overlap.
We need the ability to eliminate notes overlap on a selected zone of a track (from...to...) and not only on the whole track.
For example, you have a song with the piano playing the melody from bar# 1 to bar#16. You need to hold the notes overlap. Then you have a flute playing the melody from bar#17 to bar#32. You need to eliminate notes overlap from bar#17 to bar#32.



Oops ! This feature is already implemented. Other MIDI settings (Humanize, Velocity,...)should be implemented in the same way.


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There are already some nice utilities for adjusting midi on the melody and soloist tracks. I find the 'loosen start times' feature particularly useful. Ditto for 'eliminate note overlap'. However there are some potential improvements I can think of.

First off, the ability to adjust legato would be nice. It's available when creating a melody or solo but not (that I can see) for existing midi. Secondly, a way to intelligently add bends would be nice.

Now I don't know whether it's even possible but it would be nice if there was a way to optimize a midi track based on what instrument it's supposed to be. For example, there could be choices to optimize for electric guitar, acoustic guitar, keys etc. I can envision a dialog populated with default choices for legato, note overlap, bends, vibrato etc. that change to the best choices for the instrument selected by the user and then modified to taste.

Anyway love the program. Thanks.


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Allow proper timing parameters (in both BIAB and RB) to allow programs such as JamStix to work properly (in jam mode).




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Still being unable to use Jamstix is a big contributor to my ambivalence towards 2012.

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And one other thing...

Lots of pieces of music have their own particular individual timings or "groves" if you will. The non-standard timings may even shift repeatedly as you go through the song. If you bring in a midi and isolate the melody, it's not at all uncommon that the timing for any of the existing styles doesn't match the individual song. This can be "fixed" through the use of the quantize feature which then allows selecting an appropriate style, but only at the cost of losing a significant amount of character of the original melody.

What one would then like to do is freeze the accompaniment and go back to the timing of the original melody carrying the relative timing of the accompaniment with you.

It is possible to adjust the timing of the melody and accompaniment outside of BiaB to recover the original grove, with a greater or lesser difficulty depending on the tools one has available.

But... It would be very cool not to have to leave BiaB to do this, and not everyone is going to have the appropriate tools and know-how. BiaB is at it's best when it makes things easy.

I tend to suspect that, since BiaB can adjust melodies from swing to straight to waltz and of course do a variable quantize, that much of the machinery you would need to accomplish this is already there inside BiaB.

If you really wanted to go over the top, you could forget freezing the accompaniment and every time you generated a new accompaniment you could go through the quantitize-generate accompaniment-unquantitize cycle and call it something like intelligent styles (that adjust to your melody) and turn it on or off with a single check box.

Doing this with RealTrack styles would add a whole nother level of difficulty, though with time stretching capabilities and judicious substitution it might be possible. But it's the midi version that would be the most useful.

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I wonder if it's possible to store all the embellisher settings with the songs. This would be very useful since different midi tracks require different settings to achieve the best effect.


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I don't know if this is midi related or not? When auditioning styles via stylepicker, I'd like the song to start at the beginning of the song vs where the last one left off. If you stop the song and it happens to be on bar X, the next style generates and starts playing from bar X. I'd like to see and hear the next style start with the count-in or bar 1, depending on people's settings.

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Would like to see BB sit down and talk with Jimmy Hotz and Mick Fleetwood to discuss migrating the Hotz Translator into BB.

Hotz Translator

Hotz Box and MIDI Translator Software Demo

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Music Creation using the Hotz Translator - Mick Fleetwood

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It would
01) Quadruple your market share.
02) Greatly aid melody creation.
03) Satiate the need for BB midi enhancements.
04) Allow complete newbies to play midi instruments (or play a computer keyboard) at a level that would normally take decades to achieve.
05) Spawn the next generation of popular musical instruments.
06) Offer Karaoke fans an opportunity to play along while they sing along.
07) Eventually allow audiences to competently play along at concerts (create an app for that).
08) Nurture a child's natural love for music (enhancing their mind and strengthening self esteem).
09) Make BB a mainstay in our schools.
10) Give our aging newbie population an opportunity to create music and stick around a few years longer.

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Easy saving and implemetation of upper banks:

When I use outboard VSTs like Coyote, B4 and Philharminik, Biab's ability to save my settings seems pretty random. Please have the values for all of the voicing, effects and upper-bank patches save routinely and reliably every time I save the song.



Say I am playing through the "Swinging Piano Solos" folder (which I do sometimes.) These sound great on my Yamaha keyboard, and even better when the lead piano is set to LSB 113, patch 8. This gives one of Yamaha's premium voices that falls outside the MIDI standard. But it is rather cumbersome to do this, and the setting does not stick. I want to be able to say "Keep this voice as melody instrument" for the next few songs, or until I say otherwise.

Heck, I have a BiaB machine married to this keyboard. Give me the ability to create a short-list of premium upper-bank voices to be my defaults.


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>>>...Would like to see BB sit down and talk with Jimmy Hotz and Mick Fleetwood to discuss migrating the Hotz Translator into BB...>>

I had never seen the Hotz machine before. Looks very interesting...and expensive. A touch screen of that size is not going to be cheap.

There is, however, a control surface that is so cheap that lots of people have them already: arranger keyboards. There have been lots of requests for the ability to use an arranger board to trigger chords in BiaB in real time. The reason for not doing this has been explained, but I am going to give it another shot.

Perhaps it would be too much to ask to expect the full versatility and spontaneity of BiaB styles be accessible via a real-time keyboard. But what if the keyboard had access to just TWO of the patterns? I am stepping into areas of programming that only the PG guys know about, but might it be possible:

Pick a style in BiaB and set the program to "Real-Time" mode. BiaB then limits the style to just the two 8-beat patterns with the highest frequency number. Under this restriction, BiaB MIGHT be able to respond to requests for chord changes in real time.

I am out of my depth here. I don't know anything about the low-level programming commands in BiaB, and if y'all tell me I am all wet I'll shut up about it. Bear in mind, though, that lots of people have arranger keyboards in their closets. Maybe they would be interested in BiaB if the hookup could be made.


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"I had never seen the Hotz machine before. Looks very interesting...and expensive. A touch screen of that size is not going to be cheap."

Luckily with the Hotz Translator Software you can play directly from your computer keyboard (I believe all keys are active) or use your current music keyboard.

The Hotz Translator Software was invented decades ago, but the most recent release may have been upgraded to work on Windows XP (at least I'm hoping so).

Would love to see the Hotz Translator functionality resurrected within BB.

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In staff roll notation mode, after I finish adding note based lyrics, if I switch to the chord sheet, then come back to the notation mode I was just on, the lyrics are gone. A work-around is click editable notation mode, then staff roll notation mode again and the lyrics are back. It's a minor bug perhaps, but it's been there for years.

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