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Anybody else using PT for voice recording?

I just recorded a short story. Been meaning to try this for a long time. Plan to read more stories and poems. PT worked great for the job. Switched to 22,050 sampling to save space. Worked fine.

Might even try developing different voices to read dialogs, jokes, etc.


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There are likely many who use PT for these kind of purposes. One regular here has used it to record sermon work for radio broadcast, I've used it as a hireling to record spoken word performances of several different varieties and often the target is product sales or broadcast. PT can do a fine job and it has the ability to not 'lose' recorded data also, what with the great automatic backup facilities PT offers plus its ability to offer to restore what was recorded up to the point of a crash or power failure.

Try invoking the pgdynamics realtime plugin on the track and experiment with the compression and expansion settings while listening, too. Inserting the 10 band EQ before the pgdynamics plugin will let you sculpt the sound of anyone's voice for better readability. Can really make the finished product shine.


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Thanks Mac. I'll try the plug-in's. I've used some of them for music before.

First thing I found out was it's better to correct a misake as you read. When you flub a sentence, go ahead and say it correctly right then. Then all you have to do is cut out the mistake. I recorded the fixes and pasted them it. It worked but was difficult to get the levels to match. And that was using the same mic, set-up, and everything.

Noise is a problem too. Silence isn't silent. Not sure if PT has a noise eliminator. I used Audacity for it. Trouble with Audacity and the initial recording is that if you stop, it opens a new wav when you resume.


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Thanks Mac. I'll try the plug-in's. I've used some of them for music before.

First thing I found out was it's better to correct a misake as you read. When you flub a sentence, go ahead and say it correctly right then. Then all you have to do is cut out the mistake. I recorded the fixes and pasted them it. It worked but was difficult to get the levels to match. And that was using the same mic, set-up, and everything.




By all means. A little trick: Find something that makes a continuous sound when triggered. I use a little code oscillator but I've seen pros using everything from professionally made "beep buttons" to air horns for this purpose.

When you do the misread, before doing the reread, hit that button to insert a continuous tone for a sec or so, then release the button and do the reread.

This makes for a situation where you can "Scrub" across audio (waveform view) and find ALL of the edit points in a hurry. -- And avoid the embarrassment of a missed edit point.

In the old days, we would do this by running the reels past the heads to "Scrub" the audio. You could hear that tone pop out every time. Today, we can scrub to listen for it and also scroll through that graphics wave view and simply LOOK for them as the audio goes by.

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Noise is a problem too. Silence isn't silent. Not sure if PT has a noise eliminator. I used Audacity for it. Trouble with Audacity and the initial recording is that if you stop, it opens a new wav when you resume.




Audacity has a setting somewhere in the Edit ->Preferences to stop that, depends on which version if you have it or not. But why bother? You have a better option in PT or RB.

Simply set up the PGDynamics plugin to work like a Gate. In this case, a Noise Gate. This is done by setting the Threshold For the Expander portion to just above the indicated noise level on the VU in that window.

It is sonically sweeter than the noise gate in Audacity, too. James Chandler Jr. makes great sounding plugins.


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Mac, nice tip about the beeper. Made me thing of an even simpler beeper that everyone has - their voice! Why not, with every flub, just say in a monotone real loud into the mic 'BEEEEEEP' for a second or two? Then you can audibly/visually search for those sections?

When I have recorded voice-over sermons for my friend, we tracked in the same room as the PC, and I would hand write down his mistake times. Then I would start at the end of the file and edit backwards through so that the time stamps I wrote down remained intact.

Your idea is much better and allows editing from the front of the file.

Then after we were all done editing out flubs, we had to edit content for time as we had an exact 14 minute slot to fill.

I haven't had to do any of this editing for the past several months now. I got the pastor/buddy set up with his own system and one of the guys that lives at the half-way house that he runs is doing all the tracking and editing now. This was a guy that was homeless for a few years but he is the night manager at the half-way house now.

And yes, we do have to use some compression because the pastor doesn't hold back when he's on a roll!

But I feel a great sense of accomplishment as well as the pastor and the guy who does his recording/editing. You know, the whole teach a man to fish thing.

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Mac, nice tip about the beeper. Made me thing of an even simpler beeper that everyone has - their voice! Why not, with every flub, just say in a monotone real loud into the mic 'BEEEEEEP' for a second or two? Then you can audibly/visually search for those sections?




Easier to see a whistle than a spoken or sung beep in the graphic view.

A human whistle done with round hole between the lips generates a near Sine Wave.



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Mac, good point. I'll have to see if Patrick can whistle!

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