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Hello there,I have notice for awhile now that amongst the general midi sounds is one that emulates the string sounds that the finger produces on an acoustic guitar and also the air blowing through a mouthpiece on an instrument. Not being a midi expert at all, my question is: how do one actually use that to add more realism to a song where one of these instrument are used? are they at random or there is a way to sync it to a song? Just wondering.
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This can be very synth specific; which synth are you using?
Some have breath controller as an option, and many more controls .. some just give you what you get without much control (but there can still be ways to manipulate it)..
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Hi Rharv, I'm not using a particular synth, when I use for instance, the Aria VST from garritan, some instruments have controls for valve noise as well for air noise, IE sax, trumpet and such, but I have seen in the list of instruments that we can use the "breath noise" and the "guitar fret noise". which apparently can be used on the available tracks as a midi instrument, or so I think, and I've been always curious on how to use them in a son with a credible result, if I'm explaining myself right.
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Mike B.
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Hi Cubanpete,
Those two patches are supposed to be used on separate tracks to try to create the illusion of fret noise on a guitar track, or a bit of "wind noise" alongside of a wind instrument track.
This is typically done in a fullblown sequencing software where you will have plenty of tracks available plus the tools to allow for note placement, etc.
Not useful at all in Band in a Box, for the most part, and not all that realistic sounding once implemented IMO.
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Mike, trying to emulate real players by using midi has been the holy grail of midi for 25 years. It's very difficult. The latest and expensive (like $4,000) keyboards have certain articulation patches that are multi-layered and respond to touch. To begin to take advantage of that starts with you being a very good keyboard player with good control of your fingers. Roland has a thing where you hold a chord and hit a button with your other hand and it gives you different versions of a correct guitar strum for example. The Tyros 4 has a similar thing on some of the horns and the new Korg Pa3X has some really good ones too. Trying to do this at home on your computer when you've already said you're not a midi expert is setting yourself up for a long and frustrating learning process. You've first got to give up Biab and use a good sequencer that has all these controls available, then you have to use expensive synth software that allows for that and finally you have to understand all this as theory and be a good enough player to take advantage of it. This is the primary reason the Real Tracks were developed but of course we all know you can't change the individual notes to fit whatever you're trying to do. What is previously recorded is what you get but they sound great. Limited but great.
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Well Bob, you talk me out of it! But I'm not going to give up BIB at all, and even if I was a good keyboard player (which I'm not), BIB is still the heck of a tool for music creation, but yes I have seen videos of different VST instruments, and I agree, they sound amazing, but you have to be very good at it to make it sound that way. I was just curious about it, and you're right they don't sound very good at all even with the Ketron SD2, which I use for most of my creations along with different other VST's for different parts.
Anyway, thanks for the answers to you all. I just leave that stuff alone.
Mike B.
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Huh. First forum I've seen that makes you go back to the index page to log in.
Anyway, I'm not sure how Aria uses that, but it's probably not through those GM sounds. Good sample libraries like Aria have this kind of expression available. I haven't messed with it, but I think that you use them by playing special MIDI notes. This again is something that you need a more powerful sequencer for. Possibly, if you were able to sequence a melody that uses such expression, you could then save that melody as a MIDI file, and import it into a BIAB song. I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work, but then, a lot of things don't work the way I'd expect.
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