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Just because you are too cheap to buy technology and/or don't know how to use it, don't put down the players who have embraced it.
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aww come on, Eddie. There really *IS* a "your mileage may vary" aspect to this discussion. We all have different preferences. There are plenty of excellent musicians that each of us never listen to, for a variety of reasons. No need for any of us to dismiss someone else's opinion. Opinion never claims to be absolute truth, so it isn't really subject to debate. It's like arguing for an empirical statement that vanilla is better than chocolate.
I thought his comments were opinionated, yet left plenty of room for others to have a different opinion. That's fair play. Until we start deriding the character of those who think differently than we do, it's all just discussion. That's a GOOD thing.
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Scott, just had a chance to go through your second set of links. That keyboard battle is killer. Great stuff and oh by the way, it's jazz. Pure jazz. Not straight ahead for sure, but jazz none the less. Progressive rock is just a term, this kind of call and response is jazz all the way. Love it. The guitarist ain't too shabby either.
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I will retract my comments when I see him awarded his first Grammy.
"An iPad and autotune"? From Dream Theater? That's like saying Liberace was only popular because of the flamboyant clothes he wore...
I wonder of this guy even knows who Jordan Rudess IS? Geeze, the guy owns a software development company and wrote those interface apps. Or if he has ever seen Dream Theater perform? (I have seen them 3 times.) I suppose next he will put down John Petrucci because he plays through effects pedals and it isn't "pure".
I just get angry when some relative nobody dares to make a statement like that.
Next let's attack Wolfgang Puck's cooking....
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No need to go name calling - I didn't know who Jordan Rudess was until 4 years or so ago and there was a silly picture of him hawking some synth plugin over at KVR audio forums.
Then I started doing some digging and was impressed by both his humility and sheer wizardry of all things keyboard including a grip of alternative controllers.
I don't really like listening to Dream Theater because of the singing of all things. However, I do watch them and I actually put up some links to their new drummer auditions here many months ago (which jazzmammal referred to).
The original post in this thread I just thought was cool because of it looking like a few incredibly skilled people from very different backgrounds having a great deal of fun doing something silly yet fresh and unique.
They do make it look like child's play.
However, Tommy Emmanuel does the same thing with acoustic and electric guitar playing. We don't call his Maton and Larrivee acoustic guitars, 'toys'.
Anyway, one of my regular online music collaborators, Andy McRory, knows Eyal Amir - the third person in the videos, and he posted the video on his Facebook page. Eyal posted back to Andy's page and that caused me to watch the very first one.
I hadn't watched much of Jordan's stuff, but his on-line presence seems to show him as a decent guy. I wouldn't mind just hanging out with him. His sheer keyboard awesomeness doesn't seem to come through with any egotistical behavior on-line.
Needless to say, I look forward to the age of iPad controllers.
-Scott
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Agree Scott, he seems like a really nice person. How many superstar players who are as busy as he is bother to post vids of themselves working with a metronome practicing modified Hanon exercises? He's explaining exactly what he's doing and why and telling the viewer his personal practice tips. It's a very good lesson for any pianist. You posted another one of him explaining how to relax while playing very fast passages. Not bragging but I'm almost as fast as he is and I continually have the problem of right hand burn out when I'm performing because I get excited, the band is cooking and into it and I forget to do what he said and then I hope the next tune is a ballad. I really took that vid to heart. I've bookmarked both of those and I suspect he's posted more lessons.
Mac, I know you're lurking you should save that Hanon link and post it when you're expounding about the virtues of practicing with a metronome.
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Scott, have you looked at all into videos of Rudess and Petrucci in their offshoot band, Liquid Tension? It's Mike Portnoy on drums and Tony Levin on bass and Stick, and you won't have to endure James Labrie's caterwauling. I honestly think he is completely the weak link, but it's kind of like having to watch the 9th batter on the lineup strike out 3 times per game as the price you pay to see the top 5 hit again.
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@jazzmammal - a friend at work has Liquid Tension Experiment volumes 1 and 2. I'm listening to #2 right now - much less 'proggy' than I expected, and nearly jazz-like. More Toto sounding than anything else I can think of off-hand, without vocals.
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