Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#160749 05/25/12 07:30 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
“Give Me The Banjo”

I just caught this show on PBS and I thought I’d give you guys a heads up in case you get a chance to watch it.

It’s a look into American music history and narrated by Steve Martin. It’s especially poignant for me because I grew up and still live in the area that is the birthplace of this music.

I hope you get a chance to watch it.

Edit: Here is the link for the full video:

http://video.pbs.org/video/2164506461


Last edited by bobcflatpicker; 05/26/12 11:13 AM.
Off-Topic
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 130
J
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
J
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 130
Steve Martin is a pretty well studied musician. After having watched him be a goofball in all those movies I was taken aback at his skill.

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Here is the link for the full video:

http://video.pbs.org/video/2164506461

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Wow, Bob! I just watched the PBS video and was totally blown away. You certainly live in a musical part of the world. I would love to have you take me to meet the rural people of WV.

Q: Early in the program it said the banjo was an "African instrument" then, later, they said it was an "American instrument." Which is it?

Also, I know "hammer-ons" and "pull-offs" date back perhaps hundreds of years but I have never credited Pete Seeger with originating those terms. What had they been called prior to his book?

Anyway, thank you sincerely for giving me a fabulous, musical morning.

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Don,

I thought of you when I was watching this. I knew it would be right up your alley.

Quote:

Q: Early in the program it said the banjo was an "African instrument" then, later, they said it was an "American instrument." Which is it?




From http://www.ehow.com/about_4884892_what-origin-banjo.html

“Wrongly believed by many to be an American instrument, the banjo dates back centuries with its earliest origins found in the Middle East and Africa. While it slowly evolved for centuries, it was not until enslaved Africans brought the banjo to the American colonies that it received its significant gain in popularity.”

End quote.

I think it would be safe to say that the latest stage in the evolution of the banjo into a “modern” instrument happened in America, but I’m not an expert on it. I did find the documentary fascinating.

Quote:

I know "hammer-ons" and "pull-offs" date back perhaps hundreds of years but I have never credited Pete Seeger with originating those terms. What had they been called prior to his book?




When Pete said that, it was news to me. Dunno what those techniques were called before.

I’m glad you enjoyed it Don.

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,107
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,107
regarding the origins of the banjo:

Here's a link to a YouTube series called "THROW DOWN YOUR HEART", about Bela Fleck's trip to Africa. In the first of the series he states that the banjo's origin was Africa, and there is a clip of such an instrument being played.

Other clips show a variety of instruments used on the continent.

Interesting viewing if you have about an hour to watch all the clips. Each clip is about 5 minutes, and the very first one shows the banjo's predecessor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDCxaQhhL0A

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Pat,

I watched several clips when you posted it before.

Here's the whole 1 hour 37 min on Hulu.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/292375/bela-fleck-throw-down-your-heart

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Way koo'!

Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
In America before the so-called Civil War, it was forbidden for slaves to own or use drums, because of the fear involved when it was discovered that the African Drum (some of them) could be used for communication.

The Banjo is basically a drum, with a head, but has strings stretched over the head of the drum, using a bridge to transfer the string energy to the head of the drum.

Thus the Banjo became a sort of workaround to a problem.

If you think about it, something mentioned in the NPR presentation is not quite true: The Banjo as we know it is the *only* truly native American instrument.
Well, the roots of the Banjo are indeed found on the African continent.


--Mac

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,107
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,107
Quote:

America before the so-called Civil War <snip>




"CIVIL" WAR is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it?

Good point, Mac...I never thought of it that way before

Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 506
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 506
Quote:

The Banjo as we know it is the *only* truly native American instrument.







The Dobro (square-neck resonator guitar) is just as American. It evolved from the guitar in the early 20th Century, but it is an entirely different animal.

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Dobro is a combination of what two abbreviated words? If'in yas gotta look it up, it's cheating! I expect Mac and Bob flatpicker to know the answer. If I remember correctly, it was invented in 1929.

Off-Topic
A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A
Funny thing is we used to have a duo here that did a LOT of comedy in their act. They were guitar and dobro, but sadly the dobro player passed away. He was a GREAT guy.

They called themselves "The D'oh Bros".

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987

Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 506
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 506
Quote:

Dobro is a combination of what two abbreviated words?




Actually a name and a word: Dopyera Brothers

((what did I win?))

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
You win a big round of applause! Take a bow. Did you cheat? You even spelt it koreck!

Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 506
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 506
Quote:

You win a big round of applause! Take a bow. Did you cheat? You even spelt it koreck!




No cheating here but I am having one built for me by Tom Warner.



So it has been recently researched. It should be ready any day now.

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 40
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 40
I believe the folks from Virginia and other southern states refer to it as "The War of Northern Aggression," not The Civil War. Just something I've heard...

Anyway, to quote a great American philosopher Edwin Starr: WAR! What is it good for...absolutely nothing...say it again!

Off-Topic
A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A
Quote:

Anyway, to quote a great American philosopher Edwin Starr:




"I am SO glad my family moved to Cleveland Ohio so I could be raised in a great music city!!!"

I THINK that was the quote.....

Off-Topic
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714
Thanks for posting the link, I watched the entire show last night and truly enjoyed it.

In fact this entire tread has been very educational.

Later,

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Video: New User Interface (GUI)

Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!

Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.

Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!

Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.

Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,348
Posts791,161
Members39,859
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Samuel Song, Max Gain, BEAN223, Brazilboyz, doccawudi
39,859 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
jpettit 322
MarioD 207
DrDan 194
DC Ron 152
Noel96 143
Rob Helms 114
Today's Birthdays
DarleneProctor, Lonestar Uk, MeisterMusic, Tim Anderson
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5