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I do a solo vocal/keyboards/drum machine act....playing 50s, 60s, 70s tunes at upscale country clubs and private parties and am looking to add a little more "zoom" to my performance by using backing tracks. I do everything from Jerry Lee Lewis to Van Morrison to Ray Charles to Jimmy Buffet. I am considering buying the "Pro" package from BIAB. Will I be able to use their midi and realband stuff to my advantage? I don't want to sound like a 10 piece band...just add a little bass,drums (instead of the drum machine), and a few strings and/or horns one some tunes. I plan on using an IPad running thru my PA system and my piano/organ keyboard live. Comments please.
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Will I be able to use their midi and realband stuff to my advantage?
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I don't want to sound like a 10 piece band...just add a little bass,drums (instead of the drum machine), and a few strings and/or horns one some tunes.
You can leave empty or mute any tracks that you don't want to use.
One caveat: When you say "strings", you're talking about MIDI strings. BiaB has some great fiddle RealTracks and a nice cello RealTrack, but for string pads and the like, MIDI is your only option right now.
Similarly, there are some great solo trumpet and saxophone RealTracks, but if you're looking at doing horns as a section, you're looking at MIDI.
BiaB has a great MIDI auto-harmonizer, so if you've got a melody (or countermelody) that you want to give to a section, you can just put in the top voice and choose one of the built-in voicings (such as 4 Part Close, Drop, Drop 2, etc.) to quickly create parts for sections.
But RealTrack "string sections" and "horn sections" don't exist... yet.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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dcuny.....thanks for the input....Anybody else want to chime in?
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The Pro version only comes with a handful of styles and RealTracks. It will give you a pretty good idea of what the program can do, but I'm pretty sure once you use it, you will be clamoring for more styles and tracks.
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jford: Thanks for the input. I am thinking the MegaPack version would be better for me.
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Buy as much as your budget will allow, you can thank me later.
Welcome Aboard!
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By all means go with the MegaPak.
Don't let the style genres and such get in the way here, many styles that may be labeled as something other than the way you want to perform a certain song can be pressed into good use in other genres.
And the more of those Styles and Realtracks you have, the more you will be able to do with your show, as well.
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As much as your budget can afford.
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You'll be glad you got the whole deal to start with, rather than adding later. Some have tried going minimal and adding later, but it's not as cost effective.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Not getting at least the megaPack would be like buying a Ferrari and asking them to put a governor so it could only go 50MPH.
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Silvertones and Rharv are right! I bought Pro version first and a week later realized I needed the Mega pack version, now I can't imagine Biab without the Everything version.
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We haven't gone the backing track route yet in my wife's and my band. We gig with at least keys and bass and play jazz where my wife...the singer...feels the need to take the songs where ever she wants to go...in terms of repeats...rubato endings...solos etc.,. so using drum tracks is problematic for us.
But if I were doing what you do...as a solo act, I would JUMP onto the BIAB bandwagon.
And there is NO QUESTION but that using BIAB even in our structure would result in a MUCH more comprehensive music experience...for the audience. But, since we ain't doin' this for the money, my wife's personal musical fulfillment is issue NUMBER ONE.
I suppose if I got up to speed on the "conductor" features in BIAB then we might have more latitude than would be the case with fixed backing tracks...but I am WAY not ready for prime time on that aspect of the software.
But for a LOT of uses...and what I perceive to be your use...I couldn't recommend biab more strongly.
Best,
Jim
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Jim, since it's your wife, using the Conductor will work as long as you do some rehearsal with her. I subbed for a sick friend a few years ago with his partner and I used Biab with the Conductor. No rehearsals, just reading out of the real book. The problem was he wasn't familiar with it so he would suddenly do his "front man" thing and decide to just vamp wherever we happened to be in the song with no warning. Normally with a band, that's no problem, just follow him and he'll cue us when he starts to sing again. That's a disaster with Biab and trying to work the Conductor with no warning. He suddenly starts singing the bridge and I'm still looping a vamp or the verse. However if you work those things out ahead of time, she knows to tell you first and give you time to figure out what to do then there's no problem. Once you're familiar with the Conductor we're only talking a few seconds it's not like you're leaving her to stand there for 8 bars or something. I had it set to jump at the next part marker but you can set it to jump at the next bar if you want and it will stay in time. You can set it to jump instantly but that doesn't sound good. If you hit the key at beat 2.6 it jumps immediately and starts with a new bar on 1. Not good.
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Realtracks = game changer
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I have the Everything pak and it is everything I need. I probably will never even get through all of the RT's.
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Dang! I didn't know about the cello realtrack -- it sounds great. I missed the upgrade special this time around, though. Maybe in December.
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How many synthesizers in BB 2012 in order to transfer midi lines to separate wave lines
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that can be done with as little as one DXi or VSTi GM MIDI synth.
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Ttvl, to be clear, Biab itself does not have sound of it's own. This constantaly confuses new people. Biab is not a DAW like Sonar or Reason that has a whole rack of built in synths. PG Music gives you the Coyote Wavetable synth just to get you started for 64 bit systems. It uses your Windows Wavetable sound. Not very good. For 32 bit systems you can use the Roland VSC that is also free from PG and that's a bit better than the Wavetable. Beyond those two, it's up to you to use either software plugins, hardware synth modules or keyboards for sound. The better the sound the more they cost. This is why PG has several good synths for sale on the website like Garritan for software and the Ketron for hardware. You can use multiple VST plug in synths, one for each instrument if you want. This is for midi, the Real Tracks/Drums are audio so they don't depend on a synth for sound, they sound the same regardless of what synth you are using.
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