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I,ve been using BIAB since version 3 and ought not to need to ask such a simple question - I would appreciate help please.
My system Intel Core i5 8GB RAM Windows 7 Yamaha NP-V80 keyboard used as controller only. Pianissimo piano sound module. BIAB 2012
I do not use MIDI. I basically use BIAB to give me a first class backing band to my piano.
I set up BIAB to use MME drivers with MIDI out set to Midi Mapper or GS Wavetable synth and all plays fine.
I then open Pianissimo set to Realtek HD and ASIO4All V2 as ASIO device.
Pianissimo plays beautifully. Go back to BIAB and no sounds - I get an error message
"Couldn't open the wave device. The likely cause is that another program is using the audio playback or has left the drivers open"
Can anyone help please?

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Hi Ken,

I imagine the problem is ASIO. Most ASIO drivers will only let a single instrument through. Thus when you Pianissimo takes control, BIAB no longer has access to the sound card.

I just did a search and ...here's the link to the latest Realtek HD driver.

It might worthwhile trying this out.

Disclaimer: Please read through the document first. I'm not recommending this file because I know nothing about it. As I didn't want to lose the site, though, I thought it best to post the link. I encourage you to have a thorough look around the web before installing the file.

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Just set Band in a Box to use "MME" Windows Sound drivers instead of ASIO, keeping the ASIO for your main driver to play thru.

If you want to experiment, BiaB ASIO has a checkbox, "ASIO Always On" -- you could try unchecking that and see if your setup can run ASIO on both programs, sometimes it works, sometimes on some setups it won't.


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Hi Noel aand Mac,

Thanks for your very prompt replies. I will check both of these out.

Mac, I have BIAB set to MME but I didn't know about the "ASIO Always On" checkbox.

Will revert when I've experimented.

Thank you,

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Hi Noel and Mac,

I did a bit of digging after my last post and also contacted PG Music Support.
Support confirmed that "ASIO drivers often take over a device to the extent that another program can't use the sound card, and when that happens, there's very little that we can do about it."

I have. however, discovered a fairly inexpensive solution to the problem. I purchased a Behringer U-Control UCA222 which is a ultra low latency 2in/2out USB Audio Interface which uses ASIO drivers. This enables BIAB and Pianissimo to work together using ASIO drivers

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The cheaper solution would have been to set BIAB to use ASIO and set up the thru channel in BIAB to access the Pianissimo. I do this with Sonivox 88 & FM synths.This assuming that you're using RTs for the rest of the band.


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Hi John,

Thank you for your reply to my post on Pianissimo.
I confirm that I am only using RTs.
I would like to try your suggested method but am having a problem finding out how to select Pianissimo in BIAB.
Would you be kind enough to give me a quick step-by-step guide as to what to do please.
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1. open up BIAB
2.opt./midi driver setup
3. check box "use VSTi/DXi synth"
4. uncheck "Route midi thru to midi driver"
5. click on "VSTi/DXi synth settings
6. click on "Default Synth"
7.using the 1st drop down choose pianimisimo
8.close that screen
9.click "audio settings"
10.use the drop down to choose ASIO
11. choose your driver/check ASIO "always on"
12.click OK/OK/OK/OK you should be at the main screen
13.click opt./prefs
14. choose "channels
15. set your controller to the midi channel number for "Thru Chn"( probably 5) or change the number hear to match your controller output channel.Make sure the numbers match and are not the same as other ones.
16.click OK/OK
Start a song and you should be able to play along.


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John,

Thank you very much for your prompt and detailed instructions. Will try that tonight
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John,
It does exactly what you said it would - thank you very much for your trouble.
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It does exactly what you said it would - thank you very much for your trouble.
Ken



That's great. Sometimes when I do those step by step instructions I forget something. I do try and be careful as I know it's important.You are very welcome BTW.


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