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Hello All. My name is Joanne and I am new to this forum. I have been dithering about buying band in a box for a while but have now decided it is the time. I am starting out on my songwriting journey and after listening to some of the original music produced using BIAB and Real Band I feel it is for me!! I am really looking forward to it and have a couple of songs ready to be worked on! My question is what package to buy that will be the most cost effective for me. I am probably only going to be writing folk, country, and maybe some praise and worship, maybe some blues. I doubt I will ever be much good at writing, say, rock, jazz or funk. What would you the forumites suggest I buy to get the most bang for my buck? I have considered just buying the PRO or MEGAPAK and then buying the individual Real Tracks I fancy. What can you suggest? Thanks in anticipation Joanne www.joannecooper.co.za
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Hi Joanne,
I use BIAB for songwriting all the time. My experience is that it's best to spend as much as you possibly can so that you get the most you possibly can. You won't be disappointed. I have the UltraPlusPak.
Like you, there are a number of genres that I don't write in. The UltraPlusPak has all Realtracks, Realdrums and all styles. This means that I have the most versatile collection of sounds and tools possible for my songwriting. With so much at my fingertips, I've found that I don't confine myself to genres at all.
One of the big advantages of BIAB is its ability to mix instruments as I want in a way that suits my individual songs. I don't have to select a 'song' on the basis of a genre. Also, it's often cheaper to buy the UltraPlusPak (with everything) than to buy a few different Realtrack packs.
All the best,
Noel
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Thanks Noel. I think I will invest in that. I look forward to becoming a regular here and posting some of my original songs!
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Hi Joanne, Buy the one that is the most you can buy. I have the Everything Pak. You say that you don't write songs in Jazz,Rock or Funk. With band in a box you can mix and match different instrument styles by making up your own styles. e.g. you can have a country bass a rock piano a jazz guitar and funk drums.  This means that you can gain inspiration from hundreds of your own styles. Or you can just use the styles that are in Band In a Box. You will not be disappointed whatever Pak you buy. Regards George
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hi Joanne!
sounds like you and I are on similar paths! I started writing songs earlier this year and bought Band in a Box about two months ago! I bought the UltraPlusPak and I am positively thrilled! still learning it but it is amazing so far. I look forward to hearing more from you. :-)
John
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Hi Joanne, I'm looking forward to hearing your work You really won't be sorry. Around 2006 or 2007, I was hesitant and bought the cheapest version of BIAB going because I didn't want to waste my money. Back then, it was before Realtracks were invented. Once I started playing with the program, I loved it! At the very first bargain-value upgrade option, I got everything and I've maintained that ever since. The software is a songwriter's treasure chest full of gold. All the best, Noel
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Thanks everybody. I bitten the bullet and bought the Ultrapak.
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Joanne Cooper
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Congratulations on your purchase and welcome!
One thing that has not been mentioned yet is that if you have any questions this is the place to come. These forums have the nicest people on the planet. Many here are pro users of BiaB and RB and they are more than happy to assist anyone who needs helps.
Also be sure to view the tutorials. They are extremely helpful and will shorten you learning curve.
Good luck.
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Hi Joanne, You'll find that you have a great package! With RealTracks & RealBand as a DAW, (if you use it?)....everything you need!  Regards, Joe G.
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You will not regret it! It is the most brilliant software i have EVER paid for ......
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Hi, Joanne -
Welcome to the forum and I look forward to hearing your music.
If you have any problems or questions, please feel free to ask. We're a friendly bunch here and happy to help out. Sometimes the answer might be that you need to read a section of the manual (which you should) or watch one of the video tutorials, but unlike many other forums, you WON'T get a reply like, "I wish you newbies would just read the friggin' manual".
As Peter Gannon says, "have fun!". We all do with these great products, Band-in-a-Box and RealBand.
Again, welcome!
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There's a manual? Videos? ha, ha -- the only way to learn is to pick a song you want to do in BIAB and start doing it. Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!
As you get stuck, the manual can be useful -- but you will be better off asking questions here. Don't get me wrong, manuals and videos are great, but in my opinion, if you try a bunch of stuff first, the manual will make more sense.
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This forum should be used as a last resort AFTER you have perused the Manual, the Help files and the online FAQs.
This forum is a wonderful resource, but consider what would happen if *everybody* demanded forum attention as suggested.
Lots of helpful users here, please think about the amount of time and effort they put into helping others and try to help them help you.
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I can't help but to support what Mac says here. I've had some questions that I posted answered with kindness and support, only to find out at a later date, that the manual had the answer to begin with. Shock, huh? LOL! Anyway, welcome to the community Joanne!!! You'll end up loving the people here. I can guarantee that. I'm not of much help, because I am using BIAB in the most simplistic way: - I have an idea - pick a style I think that will fit my idea - enter chords - pick RTs - once happy, I render individual WAV files - import into my DAW - if I so choose, record whatever instrument I want to play live - save, export as MP3 and show it to the world. As simple as it gets Cheers, Mike
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Sorry, my opinion is that a lot of times the manual is the last resort. Most manuals are really good -- if you know how the program works. If I have a problem with how something works in the computer world, I google it first. Now, if you could query the manual or on-line help by using a google type query, then I would agree with you.
You all are free to say I am wrong, but I just can't see myself ever agreeing with you on this point.
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Google is most certainly your friend. Can't disagree with that one, Kevin.
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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Thanks all for the welcomes... I am expecting my Ultrapak plus to be delivered on hard drive by the end of the week. I live in South Africa so am hoping there won’t be any snags with customs etc...Our broadband here is not great so to download 60 gigs of data would have taken me the rest of my life. I have printed out a version of the manual for 2011 which I found on the net so I am perusing that. I have a few original songs that I am going to try and put some backing to as soon as I get my stuff!!! I like Mike’s simple approach and I think that is what I will do….I am also looking forward to using the program to recognize chords in an MP3 as I have a lot of Karaoke files and often get the request…late into the gig to say “Can you play “Sweet Caroline”…so being able to get the chords from the mp3 on the fly will be great…
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Hi Joanne,
I find the Audio Chord Wizard an amazing tool but it's not really designed to work on the fly. While it does a brilliant job interpreting chords from audio files, it is not perfect. Often timing and pitch issues within the file can lead to chords that need tweaking. It would be a good idea to play around with this tool before unleashing it in public.
All the best with your songs!
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There are so many features to this program, many people get intimidated by it and don't know where to start.
I recommend that new users get acquainted with the program by listening to the demo songs for a LOT of styles... all of them if you have the time. Turn off the melody as you listen. Chord patterns aren't protected by copyright, and a lot of songs use the exact same chord patterns.
If you listen to a thousand or more demo songs without the melodies to put a different spin on the chords, you're bound to hear many songs that are either exactly like, or very close to other songs you want to record.
And even if you aren't trying to recreate covers, it's a good way to get inspired. Many people start with a demo song and rearrange it to meet their own needs. No need to get bogged down in feature shock. Play with what's already been created for a while.
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Thanks Pat. I am looking forward to it and hope I will not find it too intimidating...I do find cakewalk/sonar very confusing and have long ago given up trying to work it out. I have had some success with putting styles to my own compositions with a very basic Yamaha keyboard. I am hoping that this will be just a simple but far more professional sounding. Noel..I do expect the audio chord wizard to not be perfect..…I have tried a chord recognition tool that comes as a plugin for Winamp. It is not great but it can do the trick IF I know I can sing the song very well. I mostly just need to know the key of the song, some basic chord changes and I can wing it. Most of the times I do requests is when it is late at night, the crowd is rowdy and don’t care too much about perfect guitar playing….
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XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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