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I opened a song that I generated in BIAB with 4 choruses and set the beginning and ending bars but the sound cuts off in middle of 2nd chorus.
It happens on other tunes with more than one chorus.
What am I overlooking?
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All the sound cuts off or one particular part?
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I opened a song that I generated in BIAB with 4 choruses and set the beginning and ending bars but the sound cuts off in middle of 2nd chorus.
It happens on other tunes with more than one chorus.
What am I overlooking?
I've had that happen occasionally in longer sessions of editing, etc. and it seems to be due to losing computing resources. A shutdown of programs and reboot of the computer usually fixes it.
If the Reboot doesn't fix it, there may be something corrupted in the program's volatile file -- in which case I try a "Return to Factory Settings" under the Options menu in BiaB.
Finally, I also recall one particular songfile that I couldn't get to play right no matter what, chalked it up to the songfile itself being corrupted and just bit the bullet, hit "New" and re-entered the entire thing. The New file played properly.
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Are you using BiaB from an USB drive? If so the USB port may be going to sleep. There is s simple fix for that, just let us know if you need it.
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All sound suddenly cuts off during 2nd chorus.
Not using a USB port at the moment.
Will take other advice above and let you know everybody.
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Could we have some specs like computer speed, ram, HD speed, soundcard, time when the sound stops, does it always stop at the same time in different songs, etc? These might help in finding the problem.
The fitness trainer asked me, "What kind of a squat are you accustomed to doing?" I said, "Diddly."
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It stops at different points in different songs.
Also, suddenly doesn't sound at all at start.
This after trying reboot (warm), as well as factory reset in BIAB.
I'll try an uninstall, reinstall of BIAB tomorrow after checking this thread some more later.
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I just discovered something that may help.
Did Google search and came across a paper re no sound in BIAB.
I opened one of the DEMO songs in BIAB and it played OK through more than one chorus. The paper said that the virtual piano keyboard at top should show activity as the demo song plays. It did.
I next reopened that song that was not sounding at all and now it played normally BUT there was no activity on the virtual piano keyboard at top.
If I restart BIAB, my song has no sound and doesn't even start when pick PLAY - crashes.
If I restart BIAB, play the DEMO song, then open my song, it again plays normally (but still no activity on piano keyboard).
I don't know what all this means. (Nothing in paper about if keyboard not showing activity).
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Check Options-> MIDI and Audio...
*Is "Use DXi" checked? If so, what synth is selected?
In the songfile that gives you this trouble, is it all RealTracks or does it contain some MIDI parts?
If using ASIO sound drivers, is "ASIO Always On" checked? If more than one audio program is open at the same time, it could be using the ASIO sound drivers and not relinguishing them very well. Try unchecking that in BB or changing BB to MME drivers and check operation again.
If your Windows OS is 64 bit, try installing BB in Compatability Mode.
Your computer is certainly not the problem at all, i7 screams, this is likely a Setting problem somewhere, hopefully one of the above.
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If this only happens with RealTracks (esp. ones with lots of RealTracks), it could be that your computer's CPU is too slow to keep up with generation of the song as the song plays. If this is the case, try disabling PRefs-RealTracks-Speed Up Song Generation. Disabling this will make a delay prior to the song starting, while the entire song generates, but it will insure that the whole song is generated. Next, check the speed of your PC, by running a geekbench (google that to download it).. You need about 1,500 geekbench to generate songs in the backkground like that.
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Check Options-> MIDI and Audio...
*Is "Use DXi" checked?
If so, what synth is selected?
In the songfile that gives you this trouble, is it all RealTracks or does it contain some MIDI parts?
If using ASIO sound drivers, is "ASIO Always On" checked? If more than one audio program is open at the same time, it could be using the ASIO sound drivers and not relinguishing them very well. Try unchecking that in BB or changing BB to MME drivers and check operation again.
If your Windows OS is 64 bit, try installing BB in Compatability Mode.
Your computer is certainly not the problem at all, i7 screams, this is likely a Setting problem somewhere, hopefully one of the above.
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DXi is checked; synth is Coyote WT.
How do I tell if parts are MIDI parts or Real Tracks?
No ASIO drivers installed. Using MME.
Should I uninstall BIAB, then reinstall in Compatability Mode? How do I specify Compatability Mode?
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, try disabling PRefs-RealTracks-Speed Up Song Generation. Disabling this will make a delay prior to the song starting, while the entire song generates, but it will insure that the whole song is generated. Next, check the speed of your PC, by running a geekbench (google that to download it).. You need about 1,500 geekbench to generate songs in the backkground like that.
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Disabling Speed Up SOng Generation did the trick. Thanks Peter.
Would still be interested in answers to my questions for Mac, though.
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A quick glance at the Instrument Track names across the top will tell you if a Track is MIDI or a RealTrack or RealDrum.
RealTracks will be in Green.
MIDI tracks will be in Yellow.
If there is nothing assigned to a trackname, it will be in White.
A RealTrack that also has Notation with it will have an Underscore under the Trackname. (ALL of the MIDI tracks have Notation so no need to mark that.)
Frankly I'm surprised that the Song Generation disabling did the trick on your machine, the i7 typically has a very high geekbench rating, or so I've always thought. Maybe disk throughput speed is the problem here, don't know.
But if it works, and evidentally now it does, I guess I'd leave it alone, right?
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OK. Thanks for the info Mac.
If some tracks are yellow (MIDI), others green (Real Tracks) , and some white, what does this mean?
Why not have all one color or the other?
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No good. By the way, my geek benchmark was about 5700.
I changed the Style in my song that was running OK and now sound cuts out about 4 bars from end.
I went to Pref, and unchecked Allow Real Tracks to use 4 bar endings but this did not solve problem.
Also, Mac, how reinstall in Compatability Mode?
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Are you running Win 7 in 64 bit or 32 bit?
You should not have to run in compatibility mode. BiaB runs fine on my 64 bit Win 7 computer. My guess is that it is your sound card. The NVIDIA is a chip on the motherboard and they are usually not up to stuff for music generation. Check and see if you have any access to the sound card buffers and if you do try increasing them. If still a problem try using ASIO just to see if there is a difference.
You do have the latest drivers installed for your operating system right?
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I agree, bob, you should check the website of your computer's support section and see if there has been an update to the soundcard drivers and if so, download and install them for you OS according to their directions. Then reboot and try again.
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OK. Thanks for the info Mac.
If some tracks are yellow (MIDI), others green (Real Tracks) , and some white, what does this mean?
Why not have all one color or the other?
It is possible to have a songfile that uses a MIDI style and you may have added Realtracks to that.
The recently added SuperMIDI tracks can also be applied one at a time ala the Realtracks as well, combining with RealTracks, RealDrums and even other MIDI tracks.
It is also possible that a style or songfile does not use all the Tracks available, so those would be White.
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AM running 64 bit Windows.
I am not aware that I am selecting MIDI, Real Tracks, etc - I just enter chords and play the tune.
Just ran an apdate driver program judt purcahsed that updated 33 of my drivers, including some NVIDEA audio drivers.
Had it restart computer (although not a cold boot) but still same problem with that song,
Maybe I should redo it now.
By the way,. can time signatures (2/4, eg) conflict with certain Styles?
Could that be the problem?
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If it is only happening with the one songfile, that file may have become corrupted and is no longer usable...
Restart is same thing as cold boot does for that purpose.
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