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Hi rlefebvr,
I found this problem in the early days of this version and after trying 10 takes to get base settings of the differences - I decided to record in real time to get the exact Midi/RealTrack balance I needed
I do this using the "What you hear" feature on soundcards like the SB X-Fi Xtreme Gamer and others - it takes more time than rendering but you only do it once
You can even do adjustments like decrease/increase volumes or fade endings whilst recording in real time
jazzman
Hold on a minute :-)
I have the same card. ( probably on your recommendation ).
I will have to look in the book, I am not sure what you mean by record in real time.
Do you hit play in BIAB and then hit record in the "What you hear" window in SB or do you record somehow from BIAB.
I also have another question, I bought Coyoye Forte DXi. Do you still use the VST/DXi syth setting in the midi driver setup of BIAB or should I be using some sort of SB setting.
Ron
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Hi Ron,
"Hold on a minute" - probably around 4 minutes this way!!
The X-Fi Xtreme Gamer card is very powerful and has a lot of features for audio creation and the enhancement of sound - which should be understood to get the best results
With BIAB open I also open the panel in Audio Creation Mode and run a BIAB tune to make sure that the volume settings are correct and various other settings -Reverb-Chorus-Compression-Parametric EQ are all giving me the sound I require - Stop BIAB song
I then hit Play on BIAB to start the tune then press REC on the Audio Creation Panel - after the real time recording has finished press Stop and then from the prompt message either Save to a designated file or Discard - the recording takes place entirely in the Audio Creation Panel and not in BIAB
Providing "What you Hear "is selected in the Recording setup then you get the recording as you want it
This method avoids all the balance problems with rendering levels and between midi and RealTracks and you can also manually fade in and fade out to suit
I do not use Coyote as for my use the sounds are not modern enough and therefore still use VSC DXi as my default soft synth - but having said that I use the bass and drums with RealTracks which also improves the quality of sound of any remaining midi VSC DXi sound
jazzman
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That's what I thought you meant, Jazzman.
That's perfect and it works great.
I have some adjusting to do, but once I have it set up it should work great.
Must of my stuff is old time jazz for trio to practice with, so I only use the bass, drums and some jazz guitar.
I wish I had more options with the clean guitar, but what can you do.
I like to keep the midi base at times, as I find the patterns more useful then the ones from the real tracks, but only if I have to.
It's great on Sundays with the family and friends. Just me and my piano and my virtual band.
Thks for the help
Ron
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Hi Ron,
Thanks - that's great
Once you have the settings and balance to your liking it will remain quite constant and therefore make this whole process more predictable
Like you I have various musicians around and enjoy days of music delight to which BIAB has contributed hugely to our musical education and enjoyment
I agree with you and have stated many times that some of the midi patterns are very useful when the RealTrack patterns do not get the whole feel - but I am sure that many more RealTracks will follow - but playing with the Realdrums and RealBass is as close as it gets to the real thing
If you would like to PM me then I will let you have an idea of my Audio Creation Control settings
jazzman
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I'm glad I found this post. Thanks to all for the insight. I was having the same problems with rendering to WAV. Some of the tracks were almost non-existant. I couldn't find anything in the manual for making adjustments so I just used the "what u hear" option in WavePad to get by as a quick fix. Little did I know that's the option most of you are using. I got the results I needed. I also have SwitchPlus, so once I have a WAV file, I can convert to just about any other format. The other nice thing about WavePad is that you can edit the file before you save it in case your "timing" was a little off. You can trim the front and end to get rid of any "dead air" or the counting ticks.
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Automatic "Rendering" is relatively new stuff.
If using MIDI synth(s) that are not DXi -- and capable of the Automatic Render -- you cannot use the "Render". Not if you want to get a wav file of what you are hearing from your synth.
And if you use a *hardware* MIDI synth, the only way to capture that is to arm an audio track and record the playback from end to end.
Which is exactly how studios do it anyway, whether using analog tape or digital pcm equipments.
You get more control that way.
You can do active mixing by adjusting mix controls during the playback to record, too.
--Mac
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Hi geetarman,
Pleased that you found the way around the same problem and the main area is the unpredictability of the rendering process meaning that you cannot get the same result
However the "What You Hear" method is solid and for me it is quicker in the long run as you record it as it is, with mixtures of Midi and Audio
jazzman
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