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Or is it possible to still use Real Instruments on a net book? Would I be better off trying use one of my older versions?
Thanks ahead of time for you time and knowledge.
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I have a msi wind and have put in 2Gb of memory and everything runs great, Real tracks, bandstand, etc...
Works like a charm
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I'm running an Acer Aspire and it has no problem with Band in a Box, I'm running that on an external hard drive that was shipped by PG music. I backed up the hard drive and it's contents to another 500 gig hard drive to be safe, but have had no issues. I have an HP big media box downstairs with 1 terabyte of drive space on two drives, 8 gigs of memory and vista, the acer is running XP.
I also have a Sony laptop that runs Ubuntu or XP media edition and the only thing I have not tried is to get the thing to run under Ubuntu and wine. It's on my to do list, but I have 2 concerts in the next 10 days so I'm concentrating on that.
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I run on an old ThinkPad notebook without real instruments and it works just fine.
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Or is it possible to still use Real Instruments on a net book? Would I be better off trying use one of my older versions?
Thanks ahead of time for you time and knowledge.
This question is better answered if we knew the specs of that netbook, CPU, OS, ram, hard drive size, soundcard, etc.
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Mine has 1 meg of memory, XP (vanilla), 120 gig hard drive and I use the usb external Ultra Pak. It's actually my wife's but don't tell her lol. She leaves for work at 7 a.m. and comes home at 6 p.m. so I've all day to put in back on the table beside the couch. She hated having to use one of mine. I have a son who's living here until May 1 until his new apt. is ready, and he has a killer gaming box, custom made with Vista.
And I have an HP desktop with BIG screen and sound system for music downstairs.
And a laptop the batttery died in and I'm not trying to get to do much anymore.
And a laptop that runs fine but is OLD and has a broken hinge.
My daughter has a Sony Vaio desktop in her / my office.
And my wife has the netbook, it's great for travel, fits in her purse, has wireless, I can dowload my photos etc.
So right now we have 6 computers on the home network...for 4 people. YIKES, I gotta downsize!
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The least powerful netbook for sale today blows the doors off my 2002 Toshiba laptop, which runs everything. The Toshiba is just slow.
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But we have no idea at this time of the age of this netbook either...
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How old could it be? But you're right, it would be helpful to hear from the OP.
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I have a Toshiba sat 105 laptop and it's working fine. I have the real tracks on an ext Iomega 500GB harddrive. I have Carbonite set to backup my BIAB songs and other music stiff as well. I do a mirror back up, using Acronis, to yet another WD ext HD once a week. All is working well so far.
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Looks like I needed to give more info. I don't have a netbook but am considering buying one. I want something very portable to take to Italy with me this summer. I'd like to be able to use Real Instruments but can settle for using midi if needed. What do you recomend I look for?
Apologies and further thanks
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1. Don't get a Linux system, not yet anyway.
2. The Acer comes with an SD slot. If you can find an Acer with Vista, then you can stuff an 8 gig SD card in it, and it will ask if you want to use the card to speed up the computer. Just say yes.
3. I don't know your situation, but there is no DVD or CD drive on a netbook. 'Tis too small.
4. I see no great speed difference in genterating songs with ALL Realtracks between my souped up 10 gig memory Vista HP media box and the Acer other than a few seconds, like maybe 6 or something, but I 'm willing to run a speed test.
5. Band in a Box on the external hard drive is cool. I added all the thousands of band in a box music files I have, plus the 3 Norton books for Mantooths chord changes, and it works great on my accoustic piano with the wee Behringer mixer, line out to the mixer and if I'm using midi I either stick the JV1010 or the Ketron between the system with an Edirol Midi cable. I'm not doing midi in with the accoustic piano of course, but I usually set the system to transpose the music so I can play horn watching the netbook on the 2nd verse and use the piano for verses 1 and 3 out of the music books on the piano.
6. The netbook is great, lookup how to tweak speeds etc. And if using live disable the network stuff.
7. Right now I'm not able to sleep, just back from brass band practice so I'm a bit jacked up, a rye and water will cure than in 30 mins, but I'm typing this on the wife's netbook on the home wireless network, and my son is downstairs running some interent game, while my Ubuntu system is helping out with some great math problem related to a health network, cause if I'm off it for more than 30 minutes it fires up and runs pieces of some program that is running on thousands of computers to achieve mainframe type supercomputer results using distribted computing....and I see no slowdowns.
8. We took the netbook to Cuba and I took 1200 photos, mostly of old cars (wow) and dowloaded them daily to the netbook and took it to the bar, amazed the heck outta the help. Got rid of the bunch of horn oil I took and gave away.......
9. I'd buy 2 myself, one running linux and the other Vista. With the sd slot the thing runs great....and you can add a hub to boost the 2 usb ports.....
"Have Fun!" ..the quotes are due to plagerism of Mr. PG himself.
Oh and 10. I can unplug the usb hard drive with the ultra pack and in seconds start band in a box on our netbook, my hp desktop, my old laptop, or the old desktop upstairs. I can take to a friends house and run a demo. That's beyond cool because the application does not need to wright to the registry...amazing that...
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Put this on a thumbdrive and use it to test prospective laptops in stores. http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtmlIt's not foolproof but it will give you an idea. I'm betting some netbooks work fine even with realtracks. I'm not sure where in the world you live, but Costco here lets you pick up a PC and try it for 90 days, and return it if it doesn't work out. I don't know of any other place to buy with such a handy return policy.
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Ok, someone who's not so tired as I am now pick a standard song, with all Realtracks.
Let's post our systems and times to generate the tracks and post them here. I at a bit of a loss what to do but maybe we need to take a standard song that came from PG music, not a classic like Satin Doll, unless we agree on the number of bars and verses.
Then I test the netbook on my USb ultrapak, and my huge new Vista Hp system with 10 gigs of memory and my Sony laptop, and you put yours against mine and we decide if we can live with the numbers. I suggest start a new thread....and when I get mobile later today I will post my times. Maybe Satin Doll with 3 verses is the ticket, it's good enough for a work out.
Or if he want's country someone else jump in...my country is limited to Canadian stuff more or less though I did play in Bands doing some 'merican country. \
Funniest thing I ever heard, we were going to play a 'casino'. So they wanted a 6 piece band, 200$ a night each. OK, so the bass guit player complains I'm stepping on his riffs. Can't help it I'm a solo keyboard guy and the left hand just goes there. So he's in a huff and I try to play with one hand but that won't work at all, don't know why, tried sitting on it, never could do it. The right hand and the left hand work together eh? So he quits in a huff, my left hand was blowing him away and I'm not really that good, but he was that bad. We did the audition, got 2 gigs, but they wanted more for less cash and I hate working past 11 anymore, so I got out.....
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Test of HP vrs Netbook
System 1
HP Intel Core Quad CPU @ 2.33GHz
6 Megs of ram
8 megs of fast chache via 8 gig SD card used by Vista 65 bit
2 500 gig hard drives
1 external hard drive with Ultra Pak provided by PG music with usb 2 connection
Test 1 Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses zzjazz style press play, starts in under 3 seconds with stick count in one Realtrack Drums
Note: midi is Ketron SD2 for both systems via Edirol usb interface.
Test 2 Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses Dream Jazz Ballad Quartet, all realband except for melody, 18 seconds to start from clicking play.
System 2
Acer Aspire Netbook 1 gig memory windows xp Home sp3 @1.6 GHz
120 gig hard drive
1 external hard drive with Ultra Pak provided by PG music with usb 2 connection (same as above just moved the unit.)
Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses RealDrums only realtrack 5.5 seconds to start (about 2 seconds slower)
Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses Dream Jazz Ballad all Realtracks 28 seconds to start (about 10 seconds slower)
NOTE: 1. I have not installed the software on the system it just resides on the external usb hard drive in both cases.
2. Having the song files on the computer vrs the external drive makes no difference in load times.
Question for support? Where are the audio files written, if it's back to the external hard drive via usb that might be a configurable option to override and have a temp folder elsewhere?
3. I cannot boost xp's performance via SD card the way Vista does, so with 6 gigs of memory and 8 gigs of cache boost on the desktop you see the numbers and be the judge!
Note in both cases I did use RealDrums and Satin Doll was in a directory on the Ultra Pak hard disk.
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Mine writes to C: Temp, John, no matter where BIAB and the RealTracks reside.
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For XP - I suppose there is something similar for Vista.
Right-click on My Computer, and click Properties. Click the Advanced tab. Click the Environment Variables button. Edit the location for the TEMP and/or the TMP environment variables.
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Test of HP vrs Netbook
System 2
Acer Aspire Netbook 1 gig memory windows xp Home sp3 @1.6 GHz
120 gig hard drive
1 external hard drive with Ultra Pak provided by PG music with usb 2 connection (same as above just moved the unit.)
Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses RealDrums only realtrack 5.5 seconds to start (about 2 seconds slower)
Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses Dream Jazz Ballad all Realtracks 28 seconds to start (about 10 seconds slower)
My system is a few years old. Asus Pundit.
3 Ghz (Pentium 4 single core), 2GB Ram, 2x250GB hard drives.
Software is installed on the first internal hard drive.
Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses RealDrums only realtrack 4 seconds to start.
Satin Doll 32 bars 3 verses Dream Jazz Ballad all Realtracks 44 seconds to start.
I can see a netbook in my future!
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Be advised that there are likely other variables besides just the brand, model, etc. that come into play here.
For example, the hard drive's housekeeping and how fragmented the realtracks files are will certainly have an impact on the loading time. There can be other reasons why two seemingly identical PCs would load the realtracks in different times also.
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Ya, fragmentation. So I have left all the software alone on the portable usb drived it shipped in. So I should have no fragmentation. If your system was old (I mean experienced like me), and you loaded Realtracks and they went all over the place on the drive then a defrag might be in order. Or adding a second hard drive and doing a clean install.
The system takes getting used to, but I usually play with big pockets in a suitcoat, and the netbook fits in your pocket. I was always paranoid about losing a laptop at a gig, especially when afterwards I'm thirsty and well.....put off cleaning up.
I find I use firefox a lot and being able to zoom with ctl + so I can see the wee screen without spectacles.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
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These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
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We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
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Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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