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I'm trying out the Audio Chord Wizard for the first time (in BIAB 2012). I've loaded a commercial music CD in the laptop's drive and I get a listing of the files in the Wizard. However, when I select a file and click on "Open", I get a message saying "Sorry, Cannot convert the File".

Is there something I'm doing wrong, or are commercial CD's not compatible with the Wizard?

I'm just trying to generate what chords are being played in a particular song.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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I've never used the Audio Chord Wizard to try to get a file from a CD. Do the files listed have a filetype of CDA? You must use some program to extract the song from the CD and create a MP3 or WAV file. That file can be read by the Audio Chord Wizard.

Unless someone here knows if the Audio Chord Wizard reads CDs directly and does the extraction?


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Hi Newbert andMatt
good to put something back for a change -
You do indeed need an "extractor". This will give you mp3 OR wav.
I use CDEX - http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
Its quick and easy to use.
Tip - just remember the directory location where it stores the finished files. I keep forgetting where mine is - Senior Moments, I guess.
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Hi Newbert andMatt
good to put something back for a change -
You do indeed need an "extractor". This will give you mp3 OR wav.
I use CDEX - http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
Its quick and easy to use.
Tip - just remember the directory location where it stores the finished files. I keep forgetting where mine is - Senior Moments, I guess.
cheers
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Thanks for the info and link. I'll have to try that. The files are listed as "CD Audio Track". It seems strange though that the extractor will list the actual files on the CD in this format but won't open them. And under "filetypes" it lists "CD Audio Track" as a filetype. That would indicate to me that it would work directly from the file on the CD. .... <shrug>

Thanks again!


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It used to be that most systems used to include an extraction method in the OS. Now it seems to be an 'extra'. See if Realband will allow you to open or import a File from the CD before opening the ACW.

In RB -
Audio-Import Wave File
You'll notice CDA is listed. This is for CDAudio files. If you have the codec installed, RB will use it to import the file.
If you don't you get the message you describe.

Maybe trying a different way will work for you.
If you get the file extracted, Export to Wave File and open THAT file in BiaB.


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SixChannel - I downloaded fom that link and got something called Audio Convertor along with some extraneous other "stuff". Audio Converter doesn't recognize the CD files as a valid source. Maybe I downloaded/installed the wrong thing?

rharv - Thanks for the thought about trying RB. Unfortunately, I got the same message in RB as I get in the Audio Chord Extractor in BIAB.

Any other ideas?

Thanks!


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What you need is called a, "CD Ripper" program. Websearch should bring up plenty of freebies. Rip to .wav or .mp3 format and then you can load into the ACW.

The one installed on the machine I'm using to type this is called, "FreeRIP" it works okay and doesn't take a big footprint or install anything extra and does not "phone home".


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A great CD ripper that I use (and it's freeware) is Exact Audio Copy.

When you install it, just make sure to de-select all the free inclusions (extra tool bars, search engines, etc.). I always find it annoying to have to uninstall these extras at a later date.


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I found out that Windows Media Player will rip CD tracks to .wma files. Tried it this morning and it worked great! Only drawback is that it rips ALL of the tracks on the CD, not just the one you might want - but that's OK.

BIAB's Audio Chord Wizard recognized the .wma file and generated a chord sheet which I then transferred over into BIAB - neat! BIAB then plays the song, just as it sounds on CD - voice and all! So, I can now play along with my favorite music.

For some reason, I can't slow the tempo, though. (Sadly, I need to in order to play along.... )It keeps returning to the file's default tempo. Anyone know why that is and how to adjust it?

I'm sure that I'll have other BIAB-related questions as I'm just getting back into it. But for now, being able to generate a chord sheet for my favorite music opens up a whole new world!

Thanks, everyone!


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For songs with tempo changes in them, the audio track can't be made to slow down using the tempo control. It can be slowed down using the play-tempo menu though.

For example, menu-Play-Tempo-Half speed will slow it by one half, and Ctrl - (minus) is a hot key.

Ctrl = (equals) gets you back to normal tempo.

(btw, if you remove all the tempo changes (f5-Reset all bars), the audio track will be able to be slowed down during playback, but it likely won't be synced to the chord chart.


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For songs with tempo changes in them, the audio track can't be made to slow down using the tempo control. It can be slowed down using the play-tempo menu though.

For example, menu-Play-Tempo-Half speed will slow it by one half, and Ctrl - (minus) is a hot key.

Ctrl = (equals) gets you back to normal tempo.

(btw, if you remove all the tempo changes (f5-Reset all bars), the audio track will be able to be slowed down during playback, but it likely won't be synced to the chord chart.




Thanks, Peter! I'll give that a try.

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Hi

I'm using windows 7 on a netbook (which incidentally runs Biab and realband fine). Windows media player allows you to rip commercial cds to several formats, two of which are MP3 and WAV, so try that if you are using windows. Sorry if this is a bit late....

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